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Why so difficult to use TIVO with Comcast

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by DOBE, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. dianebrat

    dianebrat drastically off narrative TCF Club

    Jul 6, 2002
    Because they are associating PPV directly with OnDemand, and you can't do OnDemand on all the boxes or services, I'm not saying they're right, just that they connect the two without realizing they're not the same.

    In more than a few markets you can do OnDemand now with Comcast, but not other providers. It never bothered me, I don't do PPV or OnDemand.
  2. kdmorse

    kdmorse Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 2001
    Germantown, MD
    Honestly, I didn't even know non-OnDemand PPV even still existed... In fully OnDemand enabled markets, I thought it had been killed off entirely.

    Or if it still exists (which it obviously does)... I've heard/seen no mention of it for years...
  3. WhiskeyTango

    WhiskeyTango New Member

    Sep 20, 2006
    New Jersey
    PPV isn't going anywhere as long as it remains the big money maker for boxing, MMA, and wrestling which are basically the only events left on PPV.
  4. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    It's REALLY easy. You just put the card in, and if you call the specific number for CableCard, it takes like 5 minutes. Mine lost sync once (when it was in the MCE PC), and a call got it re-synced. I moved into an apartment, and I did that fully self-install (Comcast was already connected to that apartment), and the same for the house I'm living in now. We had two truck rolls, but neither were because of issues with the TiVo, it's the only part that's been flawless. In most places, Comcast will already be connected, since they are the only cable company, in my area we're overbuilt, so it's a 50/50 shot (maybe more like 60/40 since more people have Comcast) when moving into a new place which one is connected.
  5. CharlesH

    CharlesH Member TCF Club

    Aug 29, 2002
    My understanding is that there are two types of PPV:

    1) Fixed channels that you are only authorized to receive for the duration of the particular program. With this kind of PPV, there is no problem enabling it with a call to a customer service person, and they tell you to tune to channel NNN at a particular time. This is like paying for a premium channel.

    2) PPV that uses the OnDemand mechanism. This uses a two-way dynamic channel allocation scheme. Until recently, this was only supported on cable company-provided set top boxes, but now it is available from some cable providers in some areas with certain TiVo models, using the Internet for upstream command path. There is no channel you can tune to if your device does not support the onDemand protocol, so I don't see how the call-in method could work with this.
  6. WhiskeyTango

    WhiskeyTango New Member

    Sep 20, 2006
    New Jersey
    That is PPV that I described.

    That is OnDemand as you pointed out. Whether it's pay or free, it's still OnDemand which Tivo, generally, does not support. So no, the call in method wouldn't work.

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