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why more than one roamio in your house?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by marklyn, Nov 7, 2013.

  1. Quake97

    Quake97 New Member

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    Just to add to the discussion, until there are profiles, I don't want my kids shows filling up the now playing list on the "adult" TiVo. Considering the base Roamio is only $100 more than a mini, it's not a big deal to me.

    Joe
     
  2. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Paradise...
    But keep in mind the Lifetime Service cost is 2-3 times as much on a full fledged TiVo than a mini.
     
  3. dcpmark

    dcpmark New Member

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    Ok, I made the complete switch: one Roamio Pro and 3 Minis, and I couldn't be happier. I'm sending back 3 CableCards and canceling the monthly service on the Premiere.

    The "filling up" argument for me doesn't exist. I consolidated all the recordings from 2 Tivo HDs and a Premiere 4 onto the Roamio, added a bunch more movies, and I'm still only at 18% of capacity. It's got a crazy amount of space. Still wish we had folders, though!
     
  4. larrs

    larrs Movie Fan-Addict

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    hey Marklyn-

    You may want to edit your signature- if you get a 3GB upgrade in your Roamio, it won't hold much!

    :)
     
  5. Sixto

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    His and Hers DVRs. And a 3rd for the kids. That's always been the standard here, and life is good with everyone doing their own thing, managing their playlists as they like, and plenty of storage. Also allows for different styles of playlist management ... as an example, I watch/delete, other family members watch/keep forever until space needed.
     
  6. marklyn

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    Just so I'm clear. If you have two Tivo's then you can see what's recorded on all connected Tivo's from either one, right?
    Also, Is it possible to see all of the season passes (on both Roamio's) from one of them or do you need to review on each one separately?
    If you can also do both of these things online, that is ok too.
    I'm trying to avoid the situation I have now, with my 3 DirecTV DVR's, I can see all playlists combined from any one, but I have to go to each one and see what's set up in the season passes, which is a pain. Having a way to see playlists and season passes for all connected machines would be great if it works that way.
     
  7. Devx

    Devx New Member

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    The 2 Roamios will be able to see each other on the network. This will allow you to view the recordings on the other Roamio and stream the recording as well. Season passes are not shared and cannot be viewed from the other Roamio. They can be viewed and managed online or via the smartphone/tablet apps (iOS, Android). The same apps can also view the recording listing and manage recordings as well. In all cases, online, via the apps, or on the Roamios, the listings are separate for each Tivo. It is never one combined listing of multiple Tivos. The one exception I can think of is in the online Season Pass manager, if you get to the step to prepare to copy Season Passes, it's possible to have it list all Season Passes from 2 Tivos in a 2 column format.
     
  8. dcpmark

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    But Season Passes can be viewed, altered, and created from all the Minis attached to the Roamio, right?
     
  9. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Yes
     
  10. BigHat

    BigHat New Member

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    I think the most obvious reason has been missed if I skimmed the answers properly. Two units means no SINGLE POINT FAILURE.

    I've had TiVos since 1999 and very one of them eventually needed a new hard drive. I'm not willing to lose TV while I sort out the problems. So I have two units as well as DTV unit that I have for the NFL/MLB but could use in a pinch.
     
  11. marklyn

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    You guys are changing my thinking on this. Maybe I should consider two basic Roamios. That would give me 8 tuners total, plus OTA reception. I could still see both playlists and season passes online from what I've read. And, from what I've been reading, I'm less likely to have issues with Time Warner's tuning adapter/cable card is the 4 tuner model (or am I misreading that)?
     
  12. uw69

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    Or you could just have a spare hard drive on site and swap in a new HD if you had an issue. Takes about 10 to 15 mins to swap the hard drive on a Roamio. :)
     
  13. BigHat

    BigHat New Member

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    Admittedly, I have not swapped a drive in a Roamio and hope it's a loooong time before I do. But I have discovered that changing a drive in a PremiereXL isn't as simple as it used to be with the advanced copy protection now on HBO etc. This now leads to a painful evolution with FIOS/Verizon to "re-pair" the card. I can get access to all but these prem. channels on my own via their website, but it's usually a two hour or more long process to get this resolved. So unless the Roamio stores that data somewhere other than where the Prem XL does, it's no 10-15 minute job.
     
  14. uw69

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    Pairing a cable card can be simple or complex depending on the level of expertise shown by your service provider, but to physically change a hard drive is as stated, a 10 to 15 min job. Rerunning guided set up etc. of course adds additional time.

    Still believe it's a bit over kill to have multiple Roamio's for protection against a hard drive failure.
     
  15. marklyn

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    I go back and forth between two basics and one Roamio plus. But, as mentioned, even with one unit if it goes down, I put in a new drive and we're back up in about 20 minutes or so. I do like the option of having OTA though.
     
  16. uw69

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    It's a decision only each individual can make. If 6 tuners isn't enough, if some OTA capability is desired or if you like to keep recorded shows separate ( like kids from adult shows) all seem like reasonable rationale to get multiple units.

    Hard drive failure seems a bit of a stretch, with a little planning to have a spare drive close at hand. I have a plus with a 3tb hard drive, i have the original 1TB drive and a spare 3TB drive on hand just in case. :)
     
  17. ltxi

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    Well, here's my situation, solution, and reasoning:

    Been doing TiVo since December 2000 and am a tunnel vision addict.

    For the last four years I've had three units running. A 1TB, two tuner Premiere in the LR, a 1TB, S3 HDXL in the MBR, and a 2TB S3 HDXL in my basement work out room that also served as the back up for stuff we did not want to lose in case of a drive failure. I've long been sensitive to the single point failure issue.

    With drive failure followed by other flakiness ironically involving the back up unit, tuner and drive full management issues with the Premiere, and the introduction of the S5s I just upgraded our system. Practical options for me came down to the existing S4 with Lifetime and: 1) 3TB Romaio Plus and existing S3 2) 3TB Roamio Plus and a Mini 3) 3TB Roamio Plus and a 3TB Roamio Basic 4) two 3TB Roamio Plus units.

    Option 1) went south after my wife saw the Roamio with HD menus that actually work and the interactive abilities with the other units the S3 lacks
    Option 2) is clearly economically attractive but as noted by me and others in this thread we don't want each others recording tastes and habits polluting each others TiVos. Absent that and the SPF concern I think this thin client solution is prolly the best
    Option 3) and it's possible companion, two upgraded Roamio Basics, went to non-starter because the form factor is different/new, oriented to cheap, and is unproven. Less inherent capability, and doesn't really save much money.
    Option 4) is where I/we ended up. S4 went to the basement workout room and also serves as a convenient back up, mostly for my stuff. And we have a good interactive system that doesn't need tuner nor content management.

    Notes...OTA capability is dnc for for us. Roamio Plus with a drop in 3TB WD 30EUR AV drive upgrade vs the Pro just on general value principles. As a Basic upgrade this or a 2TB drive should be a no brainer....better drive and less power drain than the original. Comcast Denver additional cable card charge is a dnc $1.99/month.
     
  18. mattack

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    But then you also have two SP managers to keep up to date.

    In theory I agree with the "single point of failure" argument FOR having multiple Tivos, but even as someone who had a Tivo *completely die* (apparently fried as new power supply wouldn't make it even turn on), I'd rather DAY TO DAY have ONE season pass list.

    The only other thing that's being less important to me day to day but still slightly a pain is that you cannot transfer (to computer) "from pause point" on Premieres (or presumably Roamio) anymore.. So as someone who did(*)/does collect musical performances from talk shows, which often are near the end of the show, a glitch in the recording means you can't transfer it to a computer.

    (*) Out of my own carelessness, I killed a drive with a lot of the stuff I had on it, so I guess I don't care about the recordings TOO much since I was using a bare drive with a connector cable and no backups!
     
  19. KevinG

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    If you have multiple roamios, and a few minis, what, if any, is the interface like for choosing which roamio you want to "see" from the mini?

    In other words, if one roamio is for the kids shows, and the other roamio is for the "grown-up" shows...how does a given mini choose which one to "browse"?
     
  20. dave13077

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    I would love to transition from my Premiere XL4 and 2 tuner Premiere to a Roamio Pro and a Mini (I already have another Mini Mini in our bedroom). My issue is transferring all the recorded content from the XL4 to the new Roamio. Easy to transfer non copy restricted shows but how does anyone, if even possible, move the copy protected content to the Romano?
     

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