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Why doesn't Tivo Desktop Plus come Free?

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by Shanezam203, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. NowPlaying

    NowPlaying Member

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    I purchased Tivo Desktop Plus and was very disappointed. I had to convert half the files I downloaded.

    PyTivo is a bit of a struggle to install and get working but is well worth the effort. There are step-by-step instructions posted somewhere on this forum that makes setup pretty easy. Now I can download almost any format and pyTivo takes care of the rest.
     
  2. hillyard

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    I have had tivo desktop plus for many years. I only used it for a couple of month before I found pytivo and havent used it since.
     
  3. Iluvatar

    Iluvatar New Member

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    It is developed and supported by TCF community members. pyTivo is an open source project that is freely available to users of not just Windows but every OS that supports Python. I think it it has done quite good for a project that does not take money from it's users or even accept donations (that I am aware of). Having someplace where someone can go for help seems like it would be common sense. Even TD, a commercial program that is very limited when compared to the various tools that TCF members have created, has pages and pages of support documents on their site on how to use and troubleshoot. Even a support forum as well.

    pyTivo is not as user friendly as TD but it is infinitely more useful. However the code is freely available so please if you feel like it make a GUI experience for pyTivo that is more user/Windows friendly.
     
  4. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    I would say that pytivo is simply awesome. Its problem is not user friendliness in function, but in installation. There are numerous guides, but they are not really tested against non-techies, so some of the language and expectations can go over a normal users head (like mine). But, researching, printing out the instructions, and asking for help here has always gotten the job done for me.
     
  5. Buddya

    Buddya New Member

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    So, the last post was several years ago... is pyTivo for OSX still the way to go... for non-Techies? Has TivoDesktop been upgraded since the last post on this forum?
     
  6. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Look for iTivo or PyTivoX.
     
  7. Iluvatar

    Iluvatar New Member

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    While the pyTivo portion of pyTivoX works, keep in mind it is no longer developed or supported and is very out of date. Yoav dissappeared from the forums some years ago.
     
  8. lrhorer

    lrhorer New Member

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    "Trivial" is closer to it.

    Yep, as long as you have Python 2.x and ffmpeg installed. Most Linux distros do. If not, install them first.

    Of course it does, although there is more than one development fork. Pick the one you want, and go for it.

    Shall I Google that for you?

    wmcbine's fork:
    https://github.com/wmcbrine/pytivo/tarball/master

    lucasnz's fork:
    http://repo.or.cz/w/pyTivo/wmcbrine...91fa1fceae16438abe4752d5fe802a9b5d8a65.tar.gz

    Iluvatar's fork:
    http://repo.or.cz/w/pyTivo/wmcbrine...df92b2633f47736c8b070d17bcb1018540590b.tar.gz

    Oh, and don't forget, those are compressed tarballs, so it is `tar -xzvf <filename>` not `tar -xvf <filename>`

    What can I say? You will, of course, need to input the information such as where the various shares are to be found, and your password and MAK. IF you're familiar with Linux, then 2 minutes or less with vim will set everything up. Give it another 5 minutes or so to set up your init scripts so it runs as a server.
     
  9. lrhorer

    lrhorer New Member

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    Because it is a server.

    No server should ever be point and click. No worthwhile server has an interface. That's what clients are for. PyTivo's clients are any old web browser, and the TiVo NPL (and vidmgr ).

    And rates moderately high on my list of 100 worst commercial applications ever written.

    What's to document?

    tar -xzvf <tarball>
    cd <directory>
    vim pyTivo.conf
    cd /etc/init (assuming a Debian derivative distro)
    cp skeleton pyTiVo
    vim pyTiVo
    update-rc.d pyTiVo defaults

    That's it in a nutshell.
     
  10. atr9

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    hey i have just found this site and the pytivo software. i cant seem to figure out how to get this work....

    i have installed pytivo but i cannot see it in the now playing list on my tivo. also on pytivo it has an ip address i think which is 127.0.0.1 not sure if this is suppose to be this or am i to change it?

    any help will be greatly appreciated
     
  11. philhu

    philhu User Since Day ONE!

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    pytivo-

    Install python 2.6
    Download pytivo kit, unpack and place somewhere
    FILL IN pytivo.conf with your local data like MAK, share names and locations of video files
    start a cmd window
    cd to the location pytivo is running
    type: python pytivo.py

    LET IT RUN! Do not close window

    Easiest way to check it out. There is a pytivo wiki if you need help with the pytivo.conf file. Most options are unnecessary for normal use
     
  12. Shanezam203

    Shanezam203 New Member

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    I will try that. I want to try something new because Tivo Desktop doesn't always see my Computer with my media on it...
     
  13. consumedsoul

    consumedsoul Member

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    Bummer - doesn't look like a Mac version exists for VideoReDo (to try to manually cut commericals etc.)? Is there Mac alternative?
     

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