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Why can't one find Harry's Law to watch online?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Marc, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Marc

    Marc Active Member TCF Club

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    Due to some conflicts this weekend, I wasn't able to record Harry's Law. Not a big deal, I figured, as I'd be able to watch it online.

    What? NBC doesn't stream Harry's Law? That's strange, but I'm sure I can find it somewhere else.

    What? Hulu Plus doesn't have Harry's Law either? Neither does iTunes?

    What's going on? Why would a current day TV show not be available to watch online (via legitimate means) after it's aired? That seems awfully strange.
     
  2. debtoine

    debtoine WTTWDC

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    The NBC app for iDevices has some episodes. I don't know how current they are since we stopped watching, and you have to use the search function to find them.

    deb
     
  3. Marc

    Marc Active Member TCF Club

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    Thanks for the suggestion. I just took a look and it seems that the app has the same content as is on the web site. I couldn't find full, recent episodes for Harry's Law there either. :(

    Someone did comment on the latest episode that they had also missed part of it and they were going to watch it via iTunes. Boy, are they going to be disappointed!
     
  4. Fahtrim

    Fahtrim New Member

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    because there is no demand for the terrible show? :D
     
  5. efilippi

    efilippi Active Member

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    And CBS has only clips of Good Wife, a show that they routinely start at 8;22 or something so that half of the show is skipped. I think one CAN buy that one on itunes but I am basically opposed to paying $3 to see a show that aired only a day ago and that Tivo clipped because CBS can't figure out how to schedule.

    I can't imagine how all those folks I see who say they dumped cable and just do streaming can possibly handle it. I guess if you can be satisfied with watching old seasons on netflix it would do.
     
  6. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

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    This. We axed the SP quite awhile ago...
     
  7. DouglasPHill

    DouglasPHill Active Member

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    Actually, this season, I at first did not like the reboot. But this last ep was very good and quirky. I think the writers are hitting their strides.
     
  8. Gunnyman

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

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    My wife and I had a similar conversation about csi Miami. I would pay a license fee like they do in the uk to download the shows I want a la carte
     
  9. mattack

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    This doesn't help you, but the answer is presumably because the production company didn't agree to let NBC put it online. (If NBC is the production company AND the airing network in this case, then maybe it's a funny money type of disagreement between different parts of the same company.)

    Yeah, I think it's annoying too, even though I rarely watch shows online.. (Though last week I accidentally unplugged my signal booster for a while so missed around 15 mins of a few shows.. One was the Revenge recap show I wouldn't care too much about, plus it is free on iTunes.. I don't remember what the other one is, but I'll try to find it when I catch up to that episode...)
     
  10. marksman

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    Actually it has a lot of demand but just all old.

    It is probably a top twenty show in overall viewers.

    The way most of the networks handle these reairings is horrible. I think NBC yanks poorly performing shows to focus the audience. They did it with Chelsea. They removed it from online and on demand.

    I wish I liked any show on the cw. They actually put all their shows online and on the app like 7-8 hours after they air.

    I still don't get why the networks don't understand that letting people catch up or fill in a missed episode makes them more likely to be a regular viewer.

    The abc iPhone app came out just in time to keep me from abandoning revenge. I enjoy the show but after previously having frustrations finding a missed episode I had a dvr disaster that wiped out the last four episodes before I watched them. Abc did not have them all on their site and I was just going to give up. I am no longer going to commit crimes just so I can catch up on a tv show networks are begging me to watch.

    Anyways the abc app came out (dont have an iPad) and I was able to catch up.

    The problem is the networks have stupid contracts and do dumb things. Directv has both abc and NBC on demand and both are poorly maintained. There is zero good reason why I should not be able to watch the entire season of revenge or any episode of Harry's Law.

    I remember a year or two trying to get a show for fox but they did not put them on the website until 7 days after airing.

    I have officially given up on torrenting shows to fill in gaps or catch up. I have too many shows to watch as it is and I already pay a ridiculous amount of money for content. If they don't want to keep me as a viewer that is on them.

    I did not get to see last seasons boardwalk empire but lo and behold all the episodes are available in high def on demand. There are reasons why cable shows can grow audiences from one season to the next and why network shows almost always only lose audience. They make it too difficult to keep up or catch up.

    Amc is a commercial based cable network and shows like walking dead and mad men set series high ratings with new seasons. While a few comedies have improved this year on networks almost all dramas spiral down. I actually tried hard to keep up but there are so many shows on now and my backlog do massive I have found it easier to just cut shows loose who don't even want to do the smallest amount of work to help me watch their show.
     
  11. Snappa77

    Snappa77 RUDEBWOY

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    I always wondered why CBS does not have Amazing Race offered for OnDemand on Comcast. That show gets pushed back ALOT due to whatever Sunday sports they have running long. And it is a very popular family show.

    We gave up recording 'The Good Wife' on Sundays and just watch it the next day via OnDemand. With NFL, golf, tennis etc etc sometimes the runover is almost 40+ mins.

    And because of conflicts it is very hard to pad.
     
  12. JYoung

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    I'm going to disagree with that.
    I don't see it in the top 20 overall viewers.

    And it's been doing horrible in 18-49, averaging about 1.1.
     
  13. efilippi

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    What's that? I have comcast but the only ondemand I can find is their exfinity pc app, which I can't seem to get to show up on my TV, and which only has a couple episodes of Good Wife anyway. Almost all are clips.
     
  14. laria

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    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
     
  15. WhiskeyTango

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    ^ That's why. People have become too comfortable skipping the initial airing and watching OnDemand, online, streaming, etc. The more available the show is elsewhere, the less likely viewers will stick around when it counts.
     
  16. Marc

    Marc Active Member TCF Club

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    I had excellent use of the ABC Player app myself with Missing. I have a "PILOT" wishlist on my TiVo that caught the premiere episode of that show. I finally got to watching it last week. I really loved it, and wanted to see the rest of the episodes I had missed.

    I was able to use the ABC Player app on my iPad, mirrored to my Apple TV, so that I could watch the episodes on my TV. It wasn't a completely perfect setup, but it was otherwise quite reasonable and allowed me to get the episodes I had missed and now I'm caught up with the show, ready to watch the next episode when it airs.
     
  17. Snappa77

    Snappa77 RUDEBWOY

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    But in this case the CBS Sunday lineup is almost always delayed because of afternoon sports. This upcoming Sunday they have golf which ALWAYS runs late. Unless you are recording all 3 hours of their Sunday lineup it is hard to pad the recordings because of conflicts. I would love to watch it the day it airs if they didn't push back their Sunday line up so much and so often.



    Not sure if the services they offer here in Boston is different than in Illinois but I access OnDemand thru my cable box. They have full eps of GoodWife there.

    CBS.com has the last 3 episodes available also.
     
  18. WhiskeyTango

    WhiskeyTango New Member

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    I was just using your case as a general example of people having other means of access to the content.
     
  19. marksman

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    When it counts is simply because they don't properly run their business. They should be able to distribute and monetize multiple streams equally.

    As I mentioned cable does not have this problem and they will run multiple first night and first week airings as well as catch up marathons and the rest. The result of this is you often see cable dramas grow their audience from one season to the next. This nearly never happens on the networks.

    The networks have run the same business model for fifty plus years with very little changes. I don't want to get into a Nielsen accuracy debate but I will say with the number of choices now it seems the accuracy could be off. When radio went from diaries to ppm it drastically changed radio and revealed that arbitron ratings were often not close. I realize Nielsen uses technical solutions as well but with 200 some options for every time slot I don't know how things are bring accurately measured.

    Back to ratings how many cable dramas air repeats of an episode at least one time that same night. They are able to monetize it. I realize the reality of networks don't allow for that. My point though is if you have alternate means you can grow your audience. If you lose some revenue short term so be it. That is the problem with networks though. They run very short term thinking models.

    I recorded the first two seasons of good wife on my dvr before watching it. However I missed a few episodes. I ended up torrenting them to fill in the gaps. Now I watch the show Sunday nights when it airs. I won't bother torrenting missing episodes any more because they think I am stealing from them. Instead I will just not watch the show at all.

    I realize I endlessly harp on this but the logic failure bugs me. They spend lots of resources to get people to watch a show but they have no problem blowing up that relationship when they could easily foster it and grow it. I don't feel like I am talking hypothetically either as I think pay cable and basic cable provide evidence that making shows more accessible grows the audience.

    Ironically the network who probably does the least in this regard , CBS, will probably be the first of the big four networks to get it right. They are using the CW as a test bed for these things to see if they can reach a model that makes money. Cw's ratings suck but they have the easiest access to shows of any network. So CBS is using the cw to collect data and test for their future
     
  20. WhiskeyTango

    WhiskeyTango New Member

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    Cable and the networks are very different business models because of the costs involved.
     

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