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Where to buy MStream Cablecard?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by gamo62, Nov 6, 2007.

  1. Nov 6, 2007 #1 of 20
    gamo62

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    I'm looking to get a Sci Atl PKM800 Multi Stream cable card. TWC here in cincy only has them available for their boxes, leaving us with single stream only. If anyone has a place where they can be purchased, please PM me or reply to this thread. Thank you.
     
  2. Nov 6, 2007 #2 of 20
    Joybob

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    You can only rent them from your cableco. unfortunately.
     
  3. Nov 6, 2007 #3 of 20
    RossoNeri

    RossoNeri Tech Geek

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    I don't think you can buy them. I've never seen an MSO that will allow anything other than a CC they supply to work on their system. They are usually rented out on a monthly basis, similar to their STB's.

    Curious: their STB's use CC's? CC's are usually a replacement for STB's to allow access to encrypted content w/o the need for an STB. If you were told that TWC will only supply for their boxes, I'd call back and try and confirm with another CSR.
     
  4. Nov 6, 2007 #4 of 20
    bkdtv

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    TWC in Cincinnati is required by law to supply CableCards to customers.

    If they don't offer CableCards, they can't offer digital cable service.
     
  5. Nov 6, 2007 #5 of 20
    ajwees41

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    If you read the OP he said they offer them,but in single stream only. They have Multistream, but that's for the cable boxes.
     
  6. Nov 6, 2007 #6 of 20
    s2kdave

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    Yes, it's an FCC regulation now as of July, 2007. All STBs have to have separatable security which they just use CCs inside their STB.
     
  7. Nov 6, 2007 #7 of 20
    Joybob

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    Why does he want a Multistream card?
     
  8. Nov 6, 2007 #8 of 20
    bkdtv

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    He wants a M-CARD so he can avoid renting two CableCards. One multistream CableCard (MCARD) does the job of two single-stream CableCards on the TivoHD.

    I would be very surprised if TWC would actually enable a MCARD purchased on ebay, though. Any MCARD sold on ebay is likely to be stolen, as Motorola and Scientific Atlanta do not sell them to end-users.
     
  9. Nov 6, 2007 #9 of 20
    Joybob

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    Yeah but he specifically asked for the "Sci Atl PKM800 Multi Stream cable card". I was just curious why he wanted that specific model.
     
  10. bkdtv

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    Probably because his cable system uses Scientific Atlanta equipment. If so, his system may only be setup to work with Scientific Atlanta CableCards. PKM800 is the part number of the Scientific Atlanta MCARD intended for one-way hosts.
     
  11. JJ

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    Sanity check
    since I'm not certain that I understand the question at hand.

    Evil Cable Company (ECC) uses SA hardware:
    ECC provides single stream cards for thier evil boxes for $$
    ECC provides single multi stream cards for thier evil boxes for $$
    ECC provides multiple single stream cards for TiVo boxes for $$ + $$
    While this would violate the 'spirit of the law' will they be challenged?

    If this specific ECC does no provide multi stream cards it is reasonable not to provide them for a TiVo. If ECC is simply doing this to financially punish users of superior hardware they should be taken to task with local cable authorities and the FCC...
     
  12. WinBear

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    For example, single stream cards could rent for $2.95 and multi-stream cards could rent for $4.95. In that case, he'd be saving a dollar, but that's about it. Is there some reason an MCard works better than 2 SCards?
     
  13. dig_duggler

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    In some markets (and notably Knology) you get a lot of AO fees with 2 SCards. In theory, an MCard would avoid that.
     
  14. Dr_Diablo

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    It's not gonna happen, at least for now... Maybe in ten years or so
     
  15. mattack

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    I could swear I've read other places that you *can* buy cablecards from the cable company.. but they're in the $200+ range.
     
  16. mikesown

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  17. MichaelK

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    cable company's are allowed to rent them or sell them for a reasonable fee per FCC rulings/regulations/guidelines. It's up to the individual cable company if they will rent them or sell them to their customers.

    Service electric cable is one such company that sells the cards. There's a few threads around here about them.
     
  18. MichaelK

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  19. atltom331

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    yeah, gee, I wonder what is is he has blocked out in that second picture?
     
  20. gamo62

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    I'm pretty sure it is the serial number information.
     

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