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Where is Stream for Android???

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dave060863, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. Jan 9, 2014 #241 of 288
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I thought they were showing it behind close dooors?

    Although at this rate, Amazon Prime streaming will show up first.
     
  2. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    We know that they had some "behind closed door" conversations because Dave Zatz reported he declined an invitation based on the DNR restrictions.

    We do not know what TiVo was presenting / discussing.

    I can't tell you how disappointed I am with TiVo at CES this year. I really thought with an open booth they were ready to showcase some real strategic effort. Unfortunately, they just wanted a publicity stunt.

    Do I think it is coming? Yes. When? Who knows, my best guess is as good as anyone else’s... Based on what we know - spring?

    Too long in my opinion and I don't even own an android device!
     
  3. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    Tivo does not normally release a bunch of data on new products during CES. It gets lost in all of the other shiny toys- seems weird that every year folks get all excited and then let down by their own hype.

    Tivomargret just emphasized today that it is "in the coming months".
     
  4. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Yeah and they've been saying that ever since the Stream came out. No one believes anything Tivo says about this, timeline-wise.
     
  5. mr_smits

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    I'm beginning to agree with you. I read this a couple months back:

    "TiVo representatives told us there is no definite timeframe for streaming to come to the Android app, but it is in the company's plans. "
    Ars Article: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ording-and-roaming-but-cable-keeps-calling/4/

    That line bothered me greatly as it shows Tivo isn't even close enough to give a rough timeframe for Android app streaming.
     
  6. derekmski

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    Any new information on an Android release date?
     
  7. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    While at the show, it was specifically reiterated to me by TiVo marketing personnel that "Android" was being demo-ed privately. I assume the conversations were broader than just Android, but I didn't press and obviously choose to stay excluded so that I may cover topics at my discretion and in any manner (without embargo dates, requests for edits, being chastised for tone, etc).
     
  8. mr_smits

    mr_smits New Member

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    Dave- based on your experience, what can we read into private demo-ing of Android Streaming? Lack of confidence in the product is obvious, but is there something more Android fans can get from this?
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There was a rumor somewhere that they might be having trouble getting the app approved by CableLabs because of security concerns. I'm not actually sure if they are required to get the individual apps approved, or just the protocol, but it makes sense. Android is a lot more hacker friendly then iOS so CableLabs could be concerned about people bypassing the CCI bit and capturing protected content. Although it could just as easily be that the Android software simply isn't done yet.
     
  10. mrizzo80

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    Kinda strange they felt the need to give private demo's of existing functionality. I realize this will be "new" to Android whenever it lands, but this type of functionality has existed for nearly a year and a half. :)
     
  11. ellinj

    ellinj Seems Very Friendly TCF Club

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    I don't get the security concern given that Tivo Desktop allows me to create video files that are unencumbered for all programs without the flag set, seems the security needs to be on the Tivo not the device, and they already have that in place.
     
  12. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Streaming allows you to stream even protected shows. And since it's HLS they would be really easy to capture with the proper hack.
     
  13. chart

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    Bingo. Tivo is scared of the movie studio lawsuits.
     
  14. ellinj

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    So give me an app with can't steam protects shows. Better then nothing.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    People with TWC and Cox, who protect everything, wouldn't be very happy with that. They're already limiting out of home streaming to non-protected content and there are a TON of people b*tching about it.

    They're much better off holding it back until they can figure out the security problems and get proper approval from CableLabs. Android users have waited so long, do you really think they'll be happy with a half a$$ solution that is less then what's available on iOS?
     
  16. aaronwt

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    Not Cox in RI, Only thing protected is HBO, Showtime, Etc. And even if they did, my use case I would be very happy with being able to get NBC, ABC, CBS, etc even if it was all I could get.
     
  18. Balzer

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    That's a good point. Tivo has secured a LOT of funds through patent litigation... I am sure they are being extra careful to not be on the other end of that... :)
     
  19. slowbiscuit

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    LOL this is Tivo we're talking about, almost guaranteed it's going to be a half-assed solution no matter what. Just like not being able to stream anything you want OOH even though you can do it on your LAN.
     
  20. MrDell

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    Competition is Great!! Cox in RI has Verizon Fios to compete with so they have to be careful what they do. I found them bending over backwards to make sure their product, service and prices are equal to or below Verizon. Before Verizon came to town, Cox was the only act around and they pretty much did what they wanted. Today it is a whole different story. I love it!!
     

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