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Where is Stream for Android???

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dave060863, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. arvoris

    arvoris New Member

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    Just perfect. :mad: By then my chemo should be complete. Come on guys. As others are saying Androids are used by far more people than Iwhatever. Most people can't even afford Iwhatever. I am not a guru by any means. Any ideas as to how to easily transfer to my android? I'd love to be able to watch my shows while taking chemo.:up:
    Angela


     
  2. arvoris

    arvoris New Member

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    Apparently you've never been on a limited budget, your choices are down to two...and neither one gives you what you need because of corporate greed? And perhaps it's not being bitter but frustrated? JMO

     
  3. arvoris

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    Turn it around. If it were I*** just how bitter and angry would I*** etc. users be???? I think it would be even worse. Weird. No. Human. Yes. Let's chill out with the unfriendly comments. :rolleyes: We just want solutions.:)

     
  4. arvoris

    arvoris New Member

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    Absolutely! Said so well. Politics have completely infected us all. Right now there are no elections. But believe me there are commercials all over the place saying hateful things about people who do not deserve it. And it will only get worse. I don't know what the answer is...but sure wish there were one.


     
  5. thorpemark

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    I'm old enough to remember the original PC vs MAC "wars" when MAC was a totally closed device.. Apple software, hardware, everything through apple.

    That Apple was able to sell the idea that "smart" people chose Apple because "it just works" was just brilliant. The "smart" people have been paying a premium for the Apple brand.. to show their "smarts".. or ability to pay a premium or whatever.. for a long time now.

    That this "war" has moved onto Android vs IOS is perfectly understandable. But Apple has turned to Intel processors and COTS hardware all over the place and to, essentially, unix/linux in their OS.. none of it really invented by Apple. I bet most of the world believes Apple invented the tiny music player with the iPod.

    Amazing what Apple marketing has done.

    Now give me my Android app for tivo dammit!
     
  6. VideoGrabber

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    The real problem is simply that TiVo misnamed the product.

    They should have named it the iStream, and avoided a lot of confusion and disappointment.

    ;)

    (and yes, I'm aware that HP has [or had] an App by that name.)
     
  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Apparently it got pushed again and is not expected until early next year. There is a rumor it might make an appearance at CES in January. So that's nearly 1.5 years. :eek:
     
  8. chelman

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    :up: YES! Call it iStream! so people get forewarned that only works with Apple.
     
  9. chelman

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    :up: YES! Give us our Android app!
     
  10. davefred99

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    As a new Tivo Roamio owner I want my Android Stream App now. I am so tired of being treated as a second class citizen by the "I" whatever snobs. Android now outsells Apple and we deserve and should demand better. I vote with my wallet so if they are waiting for me to buy an IOS device hell will freeze over. Everything Apple is over priced IMHO.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There are several articles linked to in this thread that explain why Android devices always come second. But basically it boils down to two things...

    1) iOS is easier to develop for because there is less hardware fragmentation.
    2) iOS users spend more money on accessories and apps.

    Also when the Stream was developed 2+ years ago, iOS still had a pretty handy lead over Android here in the US. And if you looked at just tablets they had something like 80%. Android didn't make real inroads on the tablet side until the Nexus and Kindle Fires came out, and those were released about the same time as the Stream.

    Now why it's taken them another 1.5 years to develop the Android version I have no idea. Obviously they've committed to the technology by putting inside the new Roamios.
     
  12. Grakthis

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    As we've discussed before, that's the real head scratcher. If you committed to the technology so much that you NAMED your new hardware after the idea, it should not have taken you this long to get the app out cross-platform. Windows 8, desktop, windows phone, android, HTML5, any and all.
     
  13. Dan203

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    Well they're a little more limited then someone like Sling because whatever they use has to be approved by CableLabs. So I'm not sure all those platforms are really practical. In fact someone said that an inside source told them the holdup with Android is that CableLabs doesn't think the platform is secure and they're having to do extra work to lock down the recordings better.
     
  14. mr_smits

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    Browser support, Android, and iOS support should be the target platforms since that would include about 100% of the possible market.

    I'm not sure I believe the CableLabs excuse. How are all the other Android streaming apps able to secure their platform? Comcast has an Android app (supporting streaming live channels on Android 2.2!), the major cable companies all do the same. Is there a distinction between what they are doing vs what Tivo is doing?
     
  15. moyekj

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    Agreed. Cox has a similar "Contour" app that runs on iOS and Android as well. Of course CableLabs is the cable company consortium and they don't have to abide by the same restrictions they impose on TiVo.
     
  16. Dan203

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    For whatever reason TiVo chose to use encrypted HLS for the Stream. Whether that decision was influenced by CableLabs, the Stream hardware, or just a decision they made I'm not really sure. But they're kind of stuck with it now unless they do a complete overhaul.

    HLS is supported on all versions of iOS. It's only supported on Android 4.0+ unless you use a 3rd party SDK, and not supported at all in Windows Metro without a 3rd party SDK. The only modern browser to support it natively is Safari, but it's supported by Flash so they could make it work in other browsers via the Flash plug-in.

    But again I'm not sure how much oversight CableLabs has in this process. The CableCARD spec doesn't have provisions for any of this, so I assume TiVo has to get special approval to do it at all. With Mini streaming there is precedent, so they can just do a "me too" implementation. But AFAIK there are no other cable DVRs that allow you to stream to a mobile device either in or outside the home. There are cable companies with their own streaming or VOD apps, but those are likely treated differently through specific deals with the content providers.

    Really the only other devices on the market that compete with the Stream are the offerings from Dish and DirecTV. And they both have no oversight other then whatever deals they make with their content partners. Heck Dish is actually being sued over their Slingbox stuff, so they apparently don't even have the deals they just did it and prepared to deal with the fall out.

    Oh and the new HDHomeRun has this feature but it is an ATSC or clear QAM only device. If they come out with a CableCARD version and it supports all the platforms then I'll agree that CableLabs has no effect on this.
     
  17. ort

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    The whole "all of apple's success is due to marketing" trope is intellectually lazy.

    Different people value different things. Just because someone chooses a different product than you do does not mean that they are just dupes of marketing. That's small-minded thinking.
     
  18. Jan 8, 2014 #238 of 288
    chart

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    Is there any update on STream for Android? I have iPads at home but the Android phone/tablet is what travels with me.
     
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    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Nope. We're still hoping they announce something at CES, but it's looking less and less likely.
     
  20. Jan 9, 2014 #240 of 288
    tommylicious

    tommylicious New Member

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    There is such radio silence on it that I wouldn't be surprised if Tivo have abandoned Android streaming.
     

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