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when will tivo fix "program info will runout on 7-18-2011 connect to tivo" problem

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by tootal2, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Dec 3, 2012 #641 of 730
    mdbundy

    mdbundy New Member

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    Questors - out if curiosity were you able to set your router up on a schedule to do this, or do you do this manually each week? I have been manually unplugging my TA every other week or so to manage the problem because I don't want to deal with daily messages regarding the TA, but would love to try denying my TiVo Internet connectivity even for five days out of the week. I have a Linksys router but don't see any obvious way of scheduling these kind of rules.
     
  2. Dec 6, 2012 #642 of 730
    questors

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    Yes, I set up a schedule. I have a D-Link router and there is an Advanced tab, under that is Access Control and you can set a policy by IP by days of the week. I have mine set to deny all access to the TiVo on Thursday though Saturday. Two days without access seems to be enough to let GC complete. It is easy to enable or disable the policy once you set it up. I first set it up when I went on a three week vacation and it has worked fine since.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2012 #643 of 730
    tootal2

    tootal2 New Member

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    I had my tivo on a wireless bridge plugged in to a smart strip. So tivo could not update for days sometimes and i had no gc problem.

    I unplugged my last tivo yesterday after i got my ceton echo

     
  4. mdbundy

    mdbundy New Member

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    Thanks questors. I have mine (a Linksys router) set up to deny the Tivo access Monday thru Thursday. At least on this first cycle GC did not complete. (I thought maybe it had b/c I wasn't getting the "program info will run out" warnings but I just tried to schedule a season pass and it told me I'm out of program info). I did notice that the Tivo failed to phone home when I checked in the middle of the week but I'll have to keep playing with it.

    Thanks for the idea and help setting this up!
     
  5. mdbundy

    mdbundy New Member

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    As a follow up - preventing my TiVo from phoning home is now allowing garbage collection to complete. It appears to happen about 24 hours after blocking access.

    Thanks again for this suggestion. Works better for my household than a lamp timer would!
     
  6. WO312

    WO312 Active Member

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    Super that it's working for you. I have been on a timer for a long time now and it works great also. 4 hours every night and GC updates every other day like clockwork.
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You'd think the people here who bought TiVos and pay the subscription fee every month would have dug up enough clues by now for TiVo to figure out what the problem is and come up with a fix.

    We call it a subscription, but technically it's not to the guide data, it's to the "TiVo Service".

    So regardless of the hardware one purchased upon which to receive the service, one should be equally deserving of the service working properly.
     
  8. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Roger that!

    Totally agree.
    But, TiVo has taken the position that, upgraded units are the only ones with the problem.

    Even though my S3-OLED had the problem before upgrading the internal drive.
     
  9. questors

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    A timer on the tuning adapter didn't work for me. When the tuning adapter powered up it just blinked until I rebooted the TiVo.
     
  10. mdbundy

    mdbundy New Member

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    I agree. I never opted for Lifetime on any of my TiVo boxes (this is my third but the only one I have in operation) and have been paying monthly on this box for almost six years now. I did so happily believing I was getting real value from the "service" with HME etc.

    Now I have any number of devices that do all the extra things TiVo did - Netflix, home video rendering and Pandora being the primary things in my house - and arguably better than tivo does - that its hard to justify. Add that to the fact that tuning adapters and cable cards basically suck and don't work all that well (for my household at least). This bug (self inflicted though it may be) ia probably the last straw for me. I'm pretty sure this will be my last TiVo brand DVR unless something significant changes.

    Earlier this year I had envisioned having a new generation box and a bunch of streaming receivers in my household. I've lost belief in Tivo's ability to deliver a superior experience beyond basic DVR functionality - and I'm not convinced they are doing it all that well on even the new devices (though I have no firsthand experience with them).
     
  11. Apr 4, 2013 #651 of 730
    dokcal

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    So I just disconnected my Expander (killing my programs) and set my TiVo HD on a kickstart 57 odyssey for the next three hours, when all along the problem was the #*$%&% TUNING ADAPTER? :eek:

    AAARGH!! :mad:

    IIRC, there's only one SDV channel I watch on a semi-regular basis, so maybe I'll just disconnect the darned thing permanently.

    Unbelievable that this is even an issue.
     
  12. wtherrell

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    After months and months of disconnecting the USB from TA to Tivo once a week so that Garbage collection could occur and program data would update, suddenly the GC is now taking place each day without any intervention from me. 5 straight days so far. Has never been this good. It's behaving just as good as my Premiere elite now. Did TIVO finally fix this, or am I just having a run of good luck? :)
     
  13. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Not sure what changed for you.

    But, I checked it on my TCD648250 last night and it had not completed a GC since Friday. And that is powering down the T/A every night.

    What ever changed, good on you...
     
  14. sushikitten

    sushikitten 143 down, ??? to go! TCF Club

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    Ugh. The original problem TiVo has moved to a new location but is still using the TA. It's been working flawlessly for at least eight months. Until now when I get the S03 error. I've had the TA unplugged for 17 hours and attempted two connections...both if which failed. I'm on my third now and it's Loading at 4%. My GC is a day old.

    Why now? After 8 months?

    Talk about frustrating.
     
  15. tootal2

    tootal2 New Member

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    you need to unplug it from the internet to for a few days. your tivo has to much guide data.

    I hate the s03 error but i dont use tivo anymore i just use windows media center for ceton cable card adaptor

     
  16. sushikitten

    sushikitten 143 down, ??? to go! TCF Club

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    Well, the third try worked and it successfully loaded data but I left it unplugged anyway.
     
  17. jhyler

    jhyler New Member

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    This is how I worked around the problem. I have an S3 on which I'd replaced the hard drive and was also having the S03 problem and going through the painful clear/delete workaround. Then at some point I replaced my upgraded drive with an even larger one, and something curious happened. My problem went away for a while, though eventually it came back. I got to wondering if the disk being full (of deleted programs) had something to do with it. So I experimentally tried manually deleting all of the deleted programs occasionally to make sure the disk would never fill. Sure enough, I didn't have the problem come back until I quit doing it and let the disk fill.

    Permanently deleting already-deleted programs is NOT fun and not what you'd want to do on a long-term basis. I was originally thinking that if this worked, there might be a way break into the Unix OS of an S3 and put in some kind of cron job to periodically delete deleted program older than some threshold. But by that time I'd heard about the timer trick (brilliantly simple!) and adopted that instead of pursuing this any further. Only problem with that is, I tend to record a lot of old-time movies and series that only show up in the wee hours, so I have to be careful.

    I don't claim to understand exactly why this worked, so I can't offer any assurance it will work for anybody else. But it fixed it for me.
     
  18. DougJohnson

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    I had my S3 OLED on a timer for months. Then I thought I'd try it without the timer. All was well, with GC occurring every few days. That was 18 months ago and I've only had one "running out of data" problem. I fixed that one by unplugging the TA overnight.

    I doubt TiVo has done anything in the software. I just think the problem is intermittent, at least for some of us.

    -- Doug
     
  19. sushikitten

    sushikitten 143 down, ??? to go! TCF Club

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    And we're running out of data again. GRR. Time to get a lamp timer.
     
  20. bluewarp

    bluewarp New Member

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    My original S3 gets this all the time. Rebooting eventually leads to a hard error, but works for a year or so. Rerunning the setup clears things out and fixes this temporarily too. From what I have researched, my problem is due to the guide info taking to long to process. So Tivo connects, processes but does not complete before next connection. Next connection resets the process etc etc. Tivo suggests pulling the network cable to let it complete. My solution is to activate parental controls on the router and block Tivo one day a week. Been working like this for couple years.

    -jim
     

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