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when will tivo fix "program info will runout on 7-18-2011 connect to tivo" problem

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by tootal2, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. mjsmith3

    mjsmith3 New Member

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    Seems that way. Would like to know a way out of the loop without restoring the image
     
  2. tootal2

    tootal2 New Member

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    I would just restore the image. It will not take long to remake your season passes.

    My tivo says it will run out of program info in 3 days. Think i will get that ceton cable card tuner for my desktop computer.


     
  3. WO312

    WO312 Active Member

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    Finger...
    Have you tried to leave the TA off for an extended period to see if GC will update??
     
  4. tootal2

    tootal2 New Member

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    yep have to do that everyweek. tivo should fix this problem. but i guess they dont care about the tivo hd users.

     
  5. ravingfans

    ravingfans New Member

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    You can modify fakecall.tcl to get out of the loop. I've been trying to remember where I put my modified version to help you, but must have lost it several reboots ago. I'll keep digging or if you check on the forums you might be able to find it quicker.
     
  6. Apr 5, 2012 #546 of 730
    Bob723

    Bob723 New Member

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    My family room TiVo had been giving me the "program info will run out" message on a routine basis. So a few weeks ago I purchased an external hard drive to attach to my bedroom TiVo which has never had this problem. My intent was to record the same programs in the bedroom as in the family room to make sure I didn't miss something. Ever since I purchased the hard drive, the family room has been updating as it is supposed to. I'm happy about that and I don't mind the extra storage on the other TiVo but... does anyone have an idea as to why it is working now? I have not changed anything in the family room. I did have the TA on a timer for a while but that made things worse so I removed it - I kept getting the pink screen of death. My cable provider is Charter. Do you think they changed something? One weekend both TAs were down and it was due to a Charter issue - it has been since then that both have been working fine.
     
  7. Apr 6, 2012 #547 of 730
    tootal2

    tootal2 New Member

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    You wont mess any programs. It still has 2 weeks of guide info even if says it has less then 7 days. I just unplug my tuning adapter 1 time a week for about 4 hours.

    also permanently delete everything in the recently deleted folder. it seems to help


     
  8. Icarus

    Icarus New Member

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    I have an S3, TWC, Cisco TA.

    I've always just rebooted when I saw the annoying running out of guide data and that's served me well up until now. Now I've got S03. Reboot, KS57, etc, none of that did anything of course, then I found this thread.

    I've unplugged the Cisco TA and disconnected the wireless adaptor. Indexing advanced to now. I'm waiting to see if GC will advance as well. It's still saying Feb 27, but I haven't been disconnected for very long yet.

    If GC advances, what's the next step? Try to connect? Restart?

    If I got this right, I think it's just connect at that point, since S03 was caused (indirectly maybe) by GC failing, is that correct?

    Thanks,
    David
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You might want to consult the last several pages of this thread

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=420059
     
  10. Icarus

    Icarus New Member

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    That's 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back, fortunately, I'm watching paint dry.


    GC Finished, it's now Loading info (loading 21%.)

    Thanks,
    -David
     
  11. Teeps

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    If you want to keep the problem from happening in the future put the tuning adapter on a lamp timer. Set it to turn the power off for 4 hours a day.
     
  12. Icarus

    Icarus New Member

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    It finished, no S03, so thank you to those of you that figured this out and posted the solutions in this thread.

    disconnecting the network adapter didn't pan out? Also, what about the channel lineup thing?

    System Info still says "Programming Info To: Saturday April 21". What is it waiting for to update that now?

    Thanks,
    -David
     
  13. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    That never did work for my S3.
     
  14. Icarus

    Icarus New Member

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    After I solved my S03 problem (letting GC finish), the to do list, etc still weren't updating, though the programming to date was now May something. I probably needed to leave the TA disconnected for a while, but I was impatient, so I ended up doing the channel lineup thing. I had to go through the Season Passes afterwards and for each one tell it to "record with these options".

    Looking at System Info, after the channel lineup thing the next call isn't scheduled till tomorrow, GC hasn't updated since the channel lineup thing ran, but Indexing has updated to a recent time.

    Other than by looking at System Info to see the GC time updated, is there any way to tell if GC is running properly?

    I guess I just need that lamp timer.

    -David
     
  15. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Other than you will not see the running out of guide data message; no, not that I'm aware of.

    Yes you should.
    $10 for a lamp timer will end the drama. My S3 likes to have the the t/a off line; powered off for 4 hours a day.

    My S3's GC completes every other day.
    Indexing appears to be on its own schedule; so I don't pay it much attention. Long as GC completes every couple of days.
     
  16. DougJohnson

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    Watch the GC, if it hasn't updated for a week, you should try the lamp timer. Have it turn the TA off for 4 hours at a time when you don't have any scheduled recordings, usually the very early morning, say 2am-6am.

    I had the problem last October, used a timer for a month, then stopped. I've been getting GC's every day or two since November without the timer. It seems I had some sort of transient problem. You might have as well.

    -- Doug
     
  17. Icarus

    Icarus New Member

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    I unplugged the usb cable to the t/a last night around 1AM. GC still hadn't completed at around 7:30AM when the next call was scheduled.

    If I unplug the t/a's usb cable, I can still watch all non-sdv channels. Not sure if I can do that if I power the t/a off.

    -David
     
  18. questors

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    My experience has been that all of the non-SDV will record with the TA power unplugged. I just don't get the SDV chanels.
     
  19. Icarus

    Icarus New Member

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    GC finally finished at 1:15PM. The update was at 7:28AM, so I guess that was about 5.5+ hours? Not sure why it didn't finish between 1AM and 7:28AM update start time.

    Maybe the update at 7:28AM restarted it so it was able to finally finish?

    -David
     
  20. WO312

    WO312 Active Member

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    Finger...
    I have a splitter in front of the TA. One feed goes to the TA and the other feed goes into the Tivo. That way I can power off the TA and the Tivo will still record any non-SDV channel.

    Even so, I schedule my timer for when nothing is scheduled to be recorded. The TA turning on or off will break any recordings going on at the time in the Tivo.
     

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