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when will tivo fix "program info will runout on 7-18-2011 connect to tivo" problem

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by tootal2, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Nov 5, 2011 #341 of 730
    tootal2

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    This problem just started again for me, this is depressing. it has been working fine for months



     
  2. Nov 5, 2011 #342 of 730
    WO312

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    Finger...
    I hear you. :(

    After messing around with all the fixes, I'm finally convinced that the best thing to do is to just put it on a 4 hour timer. I finally did it to my Tivo last night before I went to bed. Hard to tell exactly when the power was cut because with mechanical timers you just can't tell, but I set it for approximately 4:30 A.M. and the GC happened at 6:53 A.M.

    I'm just going to leave it this way. If the TA fails because of constant power cycling, I'll just return it for a new one.

    Tivo, you've exhausted my patience. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
     
  3. Nov 5, 2011 #343 of 730
    Teeps

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    This problem started happening to my S3, a couple of weeks after Time Warner (Torrance), turned on SDV at the end of June, 2011. Thus forcing the insertion of their Tuning Adapter.

    At that time my S3 had the standard 250GB hdd with 1TB extender.
     
  4. Nov 5, 2011 #344 of 730
    tootal2

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    I thinking of buy a cable card adapter for my windows 7 computer and using it as a dvr. windows media center is kind of good. but has no live buffers and uses more power. But i have my computer set to hibernate when its not recording shows


     
  5. Nov 5, 2011 #345 of 730
    WO312

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    Finger...
    That's certainly is an option, but I do have to ask - can you connect a TA to an HTPC?? I have no idea. If you cannot, then there is no advantage - you may as well run the Tivo w/o the TA. If you can connect a TA, then all should be good. I guess it all depends on whether Windows Media Center is programmed to communicate with a TA.

    Also, you would want to get an adapter that accepts cable cards. Otherwise, all you will get in HD will be the local network stations. And if that's all you're going to get, then might as well stay with the Tivo.

    In my setup, I have a single tuner Series 2, a dual tuner Series 2, a Tivo HD, a TWC HD, and an HTPC. Overkill, I know. :D My main machine is the Tivo HD. I use the TWC HD for HD SDV channels because that is more reliable than the Tivo for tuning the SDV channels. The others are just for backup in case something doesn't record, and for obscure shows that conflict with my main recording. By far, my favorite is the Tivo HD. Too bad we have the TA problem.

    My HTPC is very reliable on recording local HD network shows, and it automatically pads by a couple of minutes on both sides of the recordings. But boy, the Windows 7 Media Center interface is clunky, so I hardly ever watch shows on the HTPC.
     
  6. Nov 5, 2011 #346 of 730
    tootal2

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    the tuning adaptor does work with windows media center. I think you only need one for all 4 tuners. Dont know if i will buy one yet. I just wish tivo will fix this problem. I do have 5 tb of drive space on my desktop with room for a lot more.

    http://cetoncorp.com/products/infinitv-4-usb/

     
  7. Nov 5, 2011 #347 of 730
    unitron

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    Did you have cable cards in that S3 and were you getting digital cable prior to the imposition of SDV?
     
  8. Nov 5, 2011 #348 of 730
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    Sometimes, it is nice to be wrong. This makes our problem TiVo's problem.
    -- Doug
     
  9. Nov 5, 2011 #349 of 730
    Teeps

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    Yes.
    The main reason I got the S3 was the fact that it would tune and record "Speed" and "Versus" channels. Which were only offered on digital tier cable.

    Also the same cable cards (2) have been in play from the beginning (2007 if I remember.) Never had a problem with running out of guide data until July 2011. Curiously enough, it started about 2 weeks after the Tuning Adapter was installed.

    The lamp timer solution, so far has been the easiest way to deal with the problem. For me.

    I want to get a premier elite. But, it appears that they have some problems too... So I will wait until, sometime, next year before considering a purchase.
     
  10. Nov 5, 2011 #350 of 730
    unitron

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    Okay, so you got the S3 and subscribed to digital cable and got cable cards in order to get the channels you want.

    When they introduced SDV did they take away some of the channels that were previously available as digital channels via the cable cards, or just introduce some new, available via SDV only, channels that you also want?

    (I'm currently on TWC analog cable and trying to find out how I'm going to get screwed in the future)
     
  11. Nov 5, 2011 #351 of 730
    DougJohnson

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    For me, on TWC in Dallas, they did both. They moved a bunch of channels to SDV and added a bunch of new channels. I got the TA in June of '10 and until early October of this year, it just worked. No problems of any kind.

    Then I started getting the guide data problem we have been talking about. I'm fairly certain that the TA is just an innocent bystander. I think it's a TiVo software bug triggered by the TA which is just doing its TA thing.

    -- Doug
     
  12. Nov 5, 2011 #352 of 730
    unitron

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    What size is your swap partiton? The way it came from the factory or bigger?
     
  13. Nov 5, 2011 #353 of 730
    DougJohnson

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    Whatever winMFS made when I upgraded to the 1TB drive. Which begs the question: "Why did I go over year without any problems?"

    One possibility might be that we were out of town quite a bit through the summer and the drive got closer to full than it ever had.

    -- Doug
     
  14. Nov 5, 2011 #354 of 730
    unitron

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    So you used WinMFS to copy your original 160GB (HD) or 250GB (original S3) to the 1TB drive and didn't use jmfs at all?

    Did you just expand or did you also supersize?
     
  15. Nov 5, 2011 #355 of 730
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    I used winMFS to copy my 250GB to (I think) a 500GB. I'm pretty sure I supersized. That drive started going south after a couple of years, so I copied from the 500GB to the 1TB I am currently running. Again, I can't swear to it, but I probably supersized. -- Doug
     
  16. Nov 5, 2011 #356 of 730
    WO312

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    Finger...
    I might be able to answer some of your questions, since you are semi-coastal Carolina, and I'm coastal Carolina. ;)

    I have TWC Eastern Carolina, which I'm assuming you do too. When they first introduced SDV, it was merely to add HD channels that were not previously available. Over time, they have added more HD channels, but they have also been switching other channels to SDV that you wouldn't expect. Case in point: the Travel Channel. They used to have it on analog cable. Then they switched it to digital only, then they added Travel Channel HD (maybe they did those at the same time, I don't remember). Well, the digital version is SDV, which blew my mind since I can't believe they are saving that much bandwidrth, and which screwed me when I missed some recordings I wanted when I was on a vacation and had disconnected the TA so I would get GC's. Last week I was on the digital (not HD) version of the CW network and a message came on the screen that said if I wanted to keep watching it I needed to hit "Select". So I have to assume that is also SDV. Many if not most of the non-network HD channels are SDV, like USA, SyFy, etc.

    They keep adding really obscure channels, many HD, so I have to assume they are greatly expanding the use of SDV. Maybe someday I will call and see if I can get a listing of SDV channels.

    So if you go digital, fully expect that you will need a TA, and you will have to put it on a timer.
     
  17. Nov 5, 2011 #357 of 730
    unitron

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    Plan to avoid digital cable like the plague as long as possible, just like I plan to with HDMI/HDCP.

    Just got an HD, but that was mainly to have an over the air tuner in the house for digital over the air, especially during hurricanes.
     
  18. Nov 5, 2011 #358 of 730
    WO312

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    To Unitron:

    My history: I upgraded the 160GB to 500 GB using WinMFS and supersize. Then I upgraded to 1 TB, also with WinMFS and supersize. All that time everything working fine. The first week of April this year, I upgraded to 2TB using jmfs, but did not have to supersize to get the 318 hours of HD. But that is when my GC problem started. It seems like the upgrade to 2 TB triggered it, but since so many others have done the same with no problems, I'm at a loss to explain why I have the problem.

    I finally got the S03 error, and I solved it with clear and delete everything but programs. Things ran fine for maybe a month and then the problems started again. I have since been fiddling with all the easier solutions, but last night finally decided to just go with the timer routine.
     
  19. Nov 6, 2011 #359 of 730
    unitron

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    What size is your swap partition?
     
  20. Nov 6, 2011 #360 of 730
    WO312

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    ???? Whatever those programs gave me. I don't remember ever taking anything other than the defaults. Maybe I changed it, I just don't remember.
     

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