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When will Mini be for sale?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by buscuitboy, Oct 15, 2012.

When do you think the TiVo Mini will actually go on sale?

Poll closed Oct 13, 2014.
  1. Before Thanksgiving 2012

    15 vote(s)
    11.6%
  2. Before Christmas 2012

    19 vote(s)
    14.7%
  3. First Quarter 2013

    48 vote(s)
    37.2%
  4. Summer 2013

    15 vote(s)
    11.6%
  5. Holiday season 2013

    12 vote(s)
    9.3%
  6. Cable Companies will get it FAR in advance

    8 vote(s)
    6.2%
  7. never. It will get canned

    12 vote(s)
    9.3%
  1. Dec 2, 2012 #181 of 239
    shwru980r

    shwru980r Active Member

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    OK, that's good, but the Tivo isn't going to know how long you want to keep the tuner allocated. Would the Tivo prompt you to resolve every conflict created by the tuner allocation request before letting you watch live TV?
     
  2. Dec 2, 2012 #182 of 239
    TivoQueensDad

    TivoQueensDad New Member

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    I think the only thing that would drive many users to dual DVRs is pricing.

    I expect I am a typical user - Large screen TV in the family room where 90% of our viewing is done. Smaller screen TV in my bedroom used mostly for late night viewing. Something along the lines of the mini makes perfect sense for me - It can use a tuner (most of my late night viewing is "live"), but I also have the opportunity to finish off a movie I started in my family room. I don't want a large DVR in my bedroom. A box closer in size to my Roku, and without a hard drive would definitely be preferable.

    If Tivo chooses to price the mini so high that it's comparable with a second DVR, I expect they will lose sales to people like me.

    My old Tivo died a few years ago (well, not physically - it was a non-Tivo branded unit and had software issues that Tivo refused to address / would no longer work). We all loved having it, but the lack of a cost effective whole home solution kept me from purchasing another. I'm hoping that changes, but if not, I won't be purchasing anything from Tivo any time soon.

    ...and BTW, as a Cablevision customer, I can stream to my iPhone and iPad for free. That also should be a "built-in" feature and not an added box / expense.
     
  3. Dec 2, 2012 #183 of 239
    ah30k

    ah30k Active Member

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    There is absolutely nothing new in that page. I was hoping to see thin clients mentioned but no. Just streaming to another premier.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2012 #184 of 239
    MichaelK

    MichaelK New Member

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    not being sarcastic- i dont understand the need for live tv to take a tuner. it there's something you want to watch- why not just set the recording from the mini and then stream the program?

    I guess you need the tuner allocated if you want to surf and bounce around between channels?

    We have no idea but i'm sure tivo knows what percentage of their subs surfs and how often they do. Would love to see those numbers but think such things are probably more closely guarded then DOD secrets.
     
  5. Dec 2, 2012 #185 of 239
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The Mini is designed mainly to meet the needs of TiVo's MSO partners. And since they have a vested interest in people watching commercials they're not going to do anything to specifically foster a mindset of recording everything. Plus they're competing with other whole home offerings in the industry, all of which offer live TV streaming. It may not seem like an important option to us, but it's important to MSOs and to a lot of new customers who don't quite grasp the concept of a DVR yet.

    Dan
     
  6. Dec 2, 2012 #186 of 239
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    It's really not much different than using a VCR back in the 80's. At least the concept has the same goal. You use it to time shift all your TV watching. At least that is what I did. Although it took a bunch of VCRs to do it. But it's so much easier with a couple of DVRs.
     
  7. Dec 2, 2012 #187 of 239
    atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Yes I believe the price of the mini will be one of the determining factors in deciding if the mini is preferable over multiple DVRs, but I don't think it will be the only one.

    For someone like you that doesn't own an HD TiVo now I would think a whole home solution with mini will make sense but it still isn't going to be cheap. I am guessing something near $1000 for the DVR, Mini, & lifetime service, maybe that will also get you a TiVo Stream so you can stream content from the DVR to your i-device maybe not.
     
  8. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy Member

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    Looks like we have a winner; apparently the mini is FINALLY getting released around the first quarter of 2013 (although, I wouldn't be surprised at all if its closer to the summer time)

    http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-01/tivo-mini-set-for-spring-service-fee-in-tow/

    Looks like a monthly service fee will be attached to it too. I'm thinking (& hoping) around $5/month. Now, I wonder how long it will take them to make it also work with a 2-tuner Premiere. And of course, the real question for me; does it lock down/steal a tuner from a 4-tuner Premiere.
     
  9. jmpage2

    jmpage2 Active Member

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    Yeah, that's all been discussed to death in the "TiVo Mini Lives" thread.
     
  10. Davisadm

    Davisadm TiVo is awesome!!!!!

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    Coming out end of 1st qtr
    Monthly fee: $8.00
    Lifetime: TBD
    Cost: TBD
    Does not work with 2 tuner Premiere
    Dedicates 1 tuner from 4 tuner Premiere or upcoming (summer or fall) new 6 tuner Premiere.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Where did you hear the monthly fee was $8? And where did you hear a 6 tuner unit was coming in summer or fall?

    Dan
     
  12. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    He's probably referring to the Pace built 6 tuner DVR gateway that will be provided through a MVPD.
     
  13. Davisadm

    Davisadm TiVo is awesome!!!!!

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    Last week, reliable source
     
  14. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    Hopefully it has more than 2TBs.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I guess we'll see how reliable they are in a couple months. $8/mo seems high to me for a Mini. Unless the initial hardware is really cheap.

    Dan
     
  16. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    $8/mo. is a total non-starter, guess we'll have to see how much the box is w/lifetime.
     
  17. TivoQueensDad

    TivoQueensDad New Member

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    Glad I'm not the only one to think this. Monthly cost to Tivo is probably pennies per box at most. Very inconsistent policy concerning non-primary-set viewing based on device - iPad vs second TV.
     
  18. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Yeah - I am not thinking this is going to make sense for me either.
     
  19. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Active Member

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    For a Premiere, how many months does it take to equal lifetime? About 30? If they use the same model, lifetime for a Mini would be around $240.
     
  20. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    I'm paying $6.95/month on my Premiere-that-would-be-a-mini. And it has dual tuners and a hard drive in it. Add on the $2 a month I pay for the CableCard, and it's still only 95 cents more than this mini thing will cost.

    TiVo blows it again.
     

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