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What's wrong with my TiVoHD?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by Saturn, Oct 30, 2013.

What's wrong with my TiVo?

  1. Bad hard drive in TiVo (Seatools is wrong)

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Bad HDMI port on TiVo

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. Bad HDMI port on TV

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Bad Power Supply in TiVo

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%
  5. Other (explain below)

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Isn't it true that if you put an image containing software version 11.0k or 11.0m on the upgrade WD drive, you don't have to worry about intellipark?
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I don't think the one would have anything to do with the other, unless k or m have wdidle3.exe built in and run it with the /D switch at every reboot.

    Of course it would have to load that into RAM before doing a warm boot since it wouldn't be able to count on getting it from the drive.

    Besides, after learning their lesson, I'm sure TiVo has made sure that any WD drive that is capable of Intellipark has it disabled before the drive is imaged and put in a TiVo at the factory.

    You have to have the drive hooked directy to the SATA port on the PC and not run it through a USB adapter for wdidle3.exe to work because it has to work way down in the drive's firmware below the software on the disk level, so I'd think TiVo would attack the problem from some other angle than having the TiVo mess with the drive's firmware every time it booted.

    Now in order to run a drive bigger than 1.2TB, or maybe it's a drive with a partition bigger than that, up to the 2TB drive size limit, you need one of the newer versions of the S3 software, although I don't know if any of the 11.0"something before k" versions would work or not, but k and m definitely will.
     
  3. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Unitron,

    I'm not aware of any of the WD20EURS (or any of their AV-GP series) coming with Intellipark enabled.

    Scott
     
  4. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Yeah, thanks. I searched the forums for what I thought I had seen on this. Guess my "soft" ware was acting up again.
    That would be good news, although I think I saw something about it depending on when it was manufactured. I've got one purchased from Amazon in March this year. I ran the WD extended diagnostics on it and put it on the shelf, planning to replace the 1 TB in my 652 when I get around to it.

    The extended diagnostic took 20 hrs to run using a USB-SATA adapter, but I decided not to watch it run so it wasn't too bad. ;)
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I talked to someone somewhere here on TCF within the past month that had one that had been manufactured a while back and they said they had to disable Intellipark on it.
     
  6. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    User error perhaps? The first one that I purchased was August 2012 for my son and it did not have Intellipark enabled and I'm pretty sure that's part of the AV series to not have it enabled.

    Scott
     
  7. Saturn

    Saturn Lord of the Rings

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    This uncertainty is exactly why I won't get a Western Digital. Potentially saving an hour of messing around with trying to boot to DOS and get some stupid intellipark feature disabled is worth the extra $10 or so to get a different brand.

    I've never had any such problem with any Seagate drive in a TiVo. Also, I was an intern for Seagate one summer, so I've still got a soft spot for them.
     
  8. poppagene

    poppagene User

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    There's a good chance that you are having a drive problem now.

    Your tivo came with a western digital drive as original equipment. If you kept it, try putting it back in your tivo and see whether you still have the reported problems. Also if you don't have a multimeter to check the power supply voltages, buy (or borrow) one.
     
  9. Saturn

    Saturn Lord of the Rings

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    Hard drives die, particularly in a 24/7 read/write environment like a TiVo. What I meant was that I never had a problem with a new Seagate drive in a TiVo.

    As stated above, the problem was resolved by swapping HDMI cables. I haven't seen it return. I'm not saying the HD and/or power supply aren't about to die, but I'm not going to go poking around with something that is exhibiting zero problems.
     
  10. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You burn yourself a bootable copy of the Ultimate Boot cd, which you should have anyway, and you hook the new drive to the PC, boot and run the manufacturer's long test before putting it in service.

    If the drive happens to be a "green" WD, wdidle3.exe is on the UBCD and only takes a few moments to run.

    There may be a Seagate model which works just as well if not better in the S3s than the WD20EURS, but I don't personally know about it.

    I've had good results with that particular WD model.
     
  11. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I'd expect a drive running 24/7 to last longer than one that gets started up and shut down several times a day.

    But either way, they won't last forever.
     
  12. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    That drive has been on the market longer than just since August of last year.

    By user error do you mean that they ran

    wdidle3.exe /R

    and when it came back reporting that Intellipark was disabled their lying eyes told them it was reporting a certain number of seconds?
     

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