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What's wrong with my S3?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by loubob57, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. Jun 5, 2012 #1 of 56
    loubob57

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    I ordered this S3 the day they were announced so I guess it's as old as an S3 can be unless you work for TiVo. :)

    Anyhow, last night I noticed it was stuck on the menu page and the clock had an old time on it. So I tried rebooting but it sat there with all the front LEDs lit for a long time. So I tried again and those went out this time but the display stayed blank. Both times no video was coming out. I didn't listen for any hard drive clicking, I may do that tonight. I've read about bulged PS caps and will also check those.

    Anything else I can easily check?
     
  2. Jun 5, 2012 #2 of 56
    steve614

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    Based on the number of S3 OLED's with capacitor plague being reported here and the description of your symptoms, my guess is its going to be the power supply.
     
  3. Jun 5, 2012 #3 of 56
    blacknoi

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    My original S3 just had a power supply failure, where it wouldn't power up at all, and a slight ticking noise internally. No caps were obvious so I replaced the whole power supply.

    Its been working fine ever since.
     
  4. Jun 5, 2012 #4 of 56
    loubob57

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  5. Jun 8, 2012 #5 of 56
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    When my S3 capacitors started bulging I just replaced them all. Actually I think I may have missed one or two under the heatsink that I didn't see at first.

    I ordered from Mouser. They will ship USPS First Class Mail if you ask them to in your order notes and you will save a couple dollars.

    These are all low ESR and good brands, in case anybody wants to save the hour or two it can take to track them all down. :)

    1x https://www.mouser.com/Search/Produ...tualkey14000000virtualkey140-RXK102M0JBK0820P
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    1x https://www.mouser.com/Search/Produ...Lvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-EEU-FR1E222L

    It was under $10 shipped for all of them.
     
  6. Jun 8, 2012 #6 of 56
    loubob57

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    SUCCESS!

    The capacitors came in the mail today.
    I soldered in the new one and it works. Yay! :up:
     
  7. loubob57

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    Hmmmm

    Here we are a little over a month later and the S3 started freezing the picture and audio sporadically. Could it be the power supply problem caused the hard drive to dork up? Or maybe it's just a coincidence?
     
  8. steve614

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    Could be just a coincedence. How old is the hard drive?

    I suppose it would be possible that a bad power supply *could* damage the electronics on the hard drive circuit board.

    I would start by running the kickstart codes (54 & 57) or at least take the drive out of the Tivo and make a truncated backup now while it is still working.

    When you open the Tivo, double check the capacitors you didn't replace. ;)
     
  9. loubob57

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    This S3 was purchased in April 2006. The hard drive is original.

    I popped the cover off and looked at all the caps and none are bulged.

    It seems to have settled down, but I'll keep an eye on it.
     
  10. teasip

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    FWIW, I'm using Verizon FiOS/cablecard with a S3 HD that has a 1TB HD that I placed myself a year or so ago. I've noticed the same brief periods of lag/audio drop as well on several channels. Using HDMI to set and Toslink to old 5.1 receiver. I've had my cover off previously and haven't noticed any cap bulges but I do have a backup of both the original drive which I have stored away, as well as the 1TB drive.
     
  11. unitron

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    "...I may have missed one or two under the heatsink that I didn't see at first."

    And where do you think the ones most likely to be going bad are most likely to be located.:rolleyes:

    Actually, the ones most likely to be going bad will be on the +5V and +12V outputs, + lead connected to red or yellow wire and - lead to black wires.
     
  12. loubob57

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    The symptoms are still there. It will run fine for 15 minutes then the audio will drop out and the picture will freeze for a second or two and it will do that 3 or 4 times. Then it will run fine for 10-15 minutes again. Lather, rinse, ... It is also slow on responding to remote button pushes sometimes.

    Does that sound like power supply or hard drive?
     
  13. lillevig

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    How's your signal strength? Low signal input can cause similar problems on digital channels.
     
  14. loubob57

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    Never had a problem with signal strength. I've got a rooftop antenna and am about 30 miles from the transmitters.
     
  15. slowbiscuit

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    Definitely the HD IMO, had the same problem on a Hitachi 1TB a few months ago. Would freeze/resume on various shows and got worse over time to the point where the Tivo would reboot.

    You need to backup/upsize the drive now before it fails, especially since its the original S3 drive.
     
  16. loubob57

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    I was just going to get a replacement drive from Weaknees.
     
  17. Teeps

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    That'll work.
    Now would be a good time to get a larger drive.
     
  18. mattack

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    I don't have absolute proof, but I had a S3 whose hard drive died (doesn't even show up as an attached device to a computer), but still spins up when it gets power... THEN the S3 itself died VERY soon after.. or maybe it was the same time, I honestly don't remember now..

    But I got a S3 that supposedly arrived today to hopefully use for parts (power supply first), to revive my lifetime S3, then hope to buy an exact drive on eBay to revive my recordings.. If that works, then I'll likely transfer the recordings & sell the fixed S3 and get an XL4 for the more tuners.
     
  19. unitron

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    "...then hope to buy an exact drive on eBay to revive my recordings.. "

    Are you talking about a paddle board swap, or putting the current platter assembly into the new drive?
     
  20. loubob57

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    It seemed to work pretty well this evening, but that doesn't matter too much because ... I ordered a Premiere yesterday to replace this S3 and it showed up today! So now I have 2 Premieres a 45 Hr and a 75 Hr.

    Since the S3 has lifetime it would be worth it to fix it so I'll try copying this drive to another SATA drive I have from an old computer. But there's no rush now.
     

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