I just helped my sister upgrade her TiVo setup with a couple new Premier XL4s. We are now trying to figure out what to do with her original S1 and S2 TiVos that the Premiers replaced. Both of them still work fine. Both have lifetime subscriptions, and I believe both have upgraded hard drive capacity (I know for sure that at least of the two does). Do these have any value above and beyond the $20 each that she can get for them from Weakknees? Isn't the lifetime sub alone worth more than that? I'm tempted to take them off her hands and just hold onto them in case TiVo ever offers a lifetime sub transfer option again. But she thinks I'll just be adding to my clutter (an argument that has some merit). So what value do they really have at this point? Or are they really only worth the $20 that weekknees is offering? The S1 is a Sony SVR2000 with, if I remember correctly, dual 120 GB drives. The S2 is a TiVo model (I don't know the exact model number) that I think was originally an 80 hour model that was upgraded to a larger hard drive. Any input on the real value of these things would be most appreciated. Thanks!