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What UPS to get for TIVO HD

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by ghuido, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. BulletToothTony

    BulletToothTony New Member

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    I think the 750VA is a great fit, especially if you add a TV, receiver, and some other small hardware. You never want to have your UPS running at 90% of capacity, this makes them unreliable and will lead to early failure.

    I use a 1000VA to protect my stuff. I have about 20 minutes of run time, surge protection and power filtering.

    If you have a better UPS you don't even need to have a surge protection in the line, the UPS will take care of all of that.
     
  2. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    UPS batteries should be replaced every two years. They degrade and if you wait until it's obvious they are dead, you have gone without protection for quite a while.
     
  3. Ladd Morse

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    Two years seems a bit often. What do you base your estimates on?

    All my UPSs are APC units which self-check battery strength every week. I replace the batteries when the units say the batteries are weak and that averages every 4-5 years. YMMV.
     
  4. BulletToothTony

    BulletToothTony New Member

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    I agree, two years seems a bit too often. Good quality UPS batteries should last between 3-5 years. If you buy really cheap batteries, you'll have to replace them often.
     
  5. ghuido

    ghuido New Member

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    Looked online and the best buy actualy is at staples for $50.

    APC Back-UPS ES 8 Outlet 550VA 120V

    This is the one I got to try out on one of my TIVO's. I'll need to get two for the one with the High end TV and Receiver. That one I might splurge for the 750 like people say.

    http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE550G&total_watts=200

    I have a 750VA right now guarding my computer.
     
  6. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

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    I read this as my power was out but my personal Macbook Pro and Monitor were still live.

    The ComEd guy rang my doorbell and said they had to kill my power because my power pole got hit and they had to replace the crossbar. I shut down and unplugged my main TiVo.

    Per usual, "15 minutes" was more like 30 minutes but my UPS held up - except I didn't have the work monitors plugged into it. I have my priorities straight.

    As it is I have the TiVo/phone and network stuff on the 1000va Belkin UPS at the component rack and have some extension cords feeding out to the computers. . I'd like having one or two more UPSs and a few less long extension cords. I'll put one in the computer/office corner.

    I just looked and I think I'll order one of these CyberPower UPS for now:http://www.costco.com/Browse/Produc...sc1&lang=en-US&hierPath=84*1333*1363*&topnav=

    CyberPower gets good reviews on Amazon and I like it being energy efficient. I guess I need another for the bedroom TiVo.
     
  7. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    Since I usually get the small ones I've found it's just as economical to replace the whole unit rather than just the battery. The last three I purchased also had 4 additional outlets compared to the previous models with surge protection on half of the 6 so I could run other devices on them.
     
  8. JTYoung1

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    The only reason to plug a TV into a UPS is if you have a rear projection DLP or LCD and you can let the fan run after you turn the TV off. If you plan on connecting a receiver to a UPS you'd better have a 1500VA unit or higher. Although I do not know why you'd want to connect one to a UPS. When the power goes out you generally turn everything else off to keep the UPS running as long as possible in case you are recording something.
     
  9. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

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    C'Mon JT! A power failure is an emergency! You think the USA wants to miss out on what's happening on Dancing with the Stars?
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I have a separate 1200VA UPS which I use to run my TV, HT system and various other switches/devices required to actually watch TV. I bought it mainly because my TV kind of freaks out when the power goes out suddenly, but it's nice to be able to continue watching TV for an extra 10-15 minutes when the power goes out. I also have one that runs all my internet equipment (i.e. cable modem, router, switches and wireless access point) so I can continue to surf the web when the power goes out too. :)

    Dan
     
  11. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    +1. My Plasma set does NOT like brownouts. Unfortunately I can't quite afford or justify a UPS that will power that bad boy. It's quite the space heater. My BIL had a plasma set that if turned on an off quickly would blow a fuse. 100.00 repair and 150.00 charge to come take it down off the wall to fix.
     
  12. Robbdoe1

    Robbdoe1 Tivo Obsessed

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    Like I said, I use mine on the TV and Tivo because we have bad power glitches. The power went off a few weeks ago for maybe 2-5 seconds while I was watching TV. It did this 5 times or so in less then 1 hour. The first 3 of the 5 times were in less then 30 seconds. The TV never turned off and the Tivo never rebooted. I don't use mine to run the TV or Tivo for a prolonged time, just to prevent these power disruptions from screwing up my system. To each his own, I guess? I'll call FPL and let them know to call me next time before a car hits a pole so I can turn off my equipment.

    Robb
     
  13. ghuido

    ghuido New Member

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    Are any extension cords allowed? Just wondering since it might be nicer to get longer extension power cable and put the UPS in a nicer out of the way spot.

    Read somewhere were someone said From Wall to UPS it is a big NO NO on the extension cords. But what about from UPS to Equipment?

    Thanks again for all the comments
     
  14. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I see no problem using a short (less than 10ft.) extention cord from wall outlet to UPS as long as it is heavy duty (#12 wire) so that it meets or exceeds the rating of the house wiring.

    From UPS to device(s), again I see no problem using a short extention cord as long as it is rated to handle the current that the device(s) use.

    This is coming strictly from an electrical point of view. YMMV.
     
  15. BulletToothTony

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    That's why you need to have a good UPS that can do avr boost/drop. Otherwise you can become a victim to a brown out or a spike. Spend thousands on a home theater system, it has to have a good UPS.
     
  16. wisny

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    Is $45 w/ free shipping from an Amazon seller a plausible deal on this model, or does it sounds sketchy? Also, is this one a good choice to plug the TiVo HD, cable box, and DVD Expander into?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...c?ie=UTF8&qid=1286452528&sr=1-1&condition=all

    $45.00 + $0.00shipping New


    Park Ave Enterprises Of New York Inc.
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    Seller Rating:99% positive over the past 12 months. (231 total ratings)
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    In Stock.
    International & domestic shipping rates and return policy.
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    Brand New in Original Retail Packing. WE SHIP WORLDWIDE. Ships same or next day. You will receive a tracking number after item is shipped
     
  17. wisny

    wisny New Member

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    What is AVR? How does it tie in with surge protection and UPS? I get that surge protection is for power spikes, and UPS is for brownouts, or to power down gracefully in case of outages. I'm not clear on exactly what AVR is.
     
  18. Robbdoe1

    Robbdoe1 Tivo Obsessed

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    That's not bad. I have never had a problem with a seller from Amazon. YMMV.

    I figured that for less then 10 bucks I would get it locally and then if I had a problem with it I could return it or exchange it the same day. I paid $53 including tax from Office Depot. Staples has it for that price this week.

    Robb
     
  19. wisny

    wisny New Member

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    tyvm :)

    I am going to look into Staples and Office Depot. I think the DVR Expander is coming today, so if I can just pick it up locally, and set up the WD today, Imma do that.

    I appreciate your generosity with your knowledge, Robb :) :)
     
  20. wisny

    wisny New Member

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    :up: I got for the $49.99 at Staples, as you noted. It was advertised with $10 instant savings on the website, but when I got to the store, there was no instant savings sign. I asked at customer svce, they looked up the coupon code and I was good to go. Thx for the heads up on the Staples sale. :)
     

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