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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by memoody, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:57 AM.

  1. memoody

    memoody Member

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    Interesting - I didn't know the OTA could be modified in this way... I will investigate. Thanks!
     
  2. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Roamio OTA cable card slot?
    A "pre-modded" adapter also can be purchased off of eBay (at slightly more). Unknown if TiVo ever would say anything about this (vis-à-vis warranty or otherwise)--thus far, no reports here that it has, but something that has been mentioned as a consideration point.
     
  3. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Just came across this post from earlier today:
    Transfer your Lifetime service for only $99

    (I'd still call today--who knows.)
     
  4. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only TCF Club

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    There will be a prompt: cancel the recording or give up the tuner. No action gives up the tuner. I put my Mini into Standby when finished. If it's still in TiVo Central, an EAS test can cause it to go online for four hours.
     
  5. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Ouch on the monthly service for that long. We've been firm believers in lifetime since we got our first TiVo in 2000 and it's definitely paid for itself.

    Do you have your TiVo account/email address set so you are receiving special offers from TiVo? Unfortunately, you also missed out on a longevity deal back in 2015/early 2016 for long time TiVo users. We picked up a Roamio Pro for $600 with lifetime to replace our 2 S3 OLED TiVo's in October 2015.

    Scott
     
  6. krkaufman

    krkaufman Well-Known Member

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    Could you elaborate on your plans for this 2TB WD Purple drive?

    TiVo only allows a couple 1TB or smaller WD DVR Expander drives to be used as external drives, paired with an internal drive, so unless you're talking about an alternate approach for the external drive your plans aren't compatible with what TiVo technology allows (and they won't be too supportive of the alternate approach, either).
     
  7. memoody

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    I used to get emails but they stopped coming in for some reason... oh well.
    Yeah, the monthly plan seemed like a good idea when I wasn't sure how long I'd be keeping those units... little did I know I'd have both 7-8 years later.
     
  8. memoody

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    Hmmm... I was not aware of the 1GB expander drive limitation. I can still just swap the 500 GB drive with the 2 GB drive I have now and gain most of the benefit.
     
  9. krkaufman

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    I'm not familiar with the Pros/Cons of using the WD Purple drives with TiVos, but be aware that the BOLT uses 2.5" drives, not 3.5" -- and I don't see where the Purples are anything other than 3.5".
     
  10. memoody

    memoody Member

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    Boy I keep learning more and more - thanks for the good info. Guess I'd need to buy a new drive which will run me another $100-150.
     
  11. krkaufman

    krkaufman Well-Known Member

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    Yep, depending on the size you're looking for, shunning the "alternative." Sounds like there's a 3TB Toshiba model most people are grabbing, but I haven't familiarized myself with any lower capacity/cost alternatives. (e.g. 2TB upgrade, rather than 3TB)
     
  12. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Totally understandable that you would assume that any external hard drive could be attached to a TiVo in this day-and-age, rather than TiVo limiting this to specific drive units that now are outdated, expensive and difficult-to-find, as expansion needs only have increased . . . . :(
     
  13. Redoctobyr

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    There are threads here about using an external eSATA drive enclosure, but connecting that drive to the *internal* SATA port, the one meant for an internal drive.

    If you wanted to do it that way, you could use a 3.5" drive, potentially allowing greater capacity at lower cost, vs a 2.5". I bought the 3TB 2.5" Toshiba, and am waiting for my Bolt to arrive. I'll swap the internal drive for my 3TB.
     
  14. randywalters

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    Maybe consider a used Lifetime'd Roamio Pro (6-tuners w/3TB hard drive) or Roamio Plus (6-tuners but with a smaller 1TB hard drive).

    I've been considering picking up a 1TB Roamio Plus (since they tend to go for less money than the 3TB Pro on Ebay), then upgrading it to 3TB with a brand new blank hard drive since with the Roamio it will automatically load the Tivo software onto the new hard drive (3TB limit IIRC). This way i get the cheaper Roamio Plus model, but with a much larger fresh new hard drive all for around $500-$600 including Lifetime.

    These two hard drives seem to be popular for the Roamio:

    WD Red 3TB NAS Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM Class SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD30EFRX

    Amazon.com: WD Red 3TB NAS Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM Class SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD30EFRX: Computers & Accessories

    Western Digital Red NAS Hard Drive Review [WD30EFRX] | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews


    WD 3 TB WD AV-GP SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM AV Hard Drive WD30EURX

    Amazon.com: WD 3 TB WD AV-GP SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM AV Hard Drive WD30EURX: Computers & Accessories
     
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  15. randywalters

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    I forgot to add - i'm not a fan of adding an external drive to increase storage; some years back i did this with a TWC DVR and it worked fine for several months, but then the external drive suddenly failed and it lost ALL my recorded shows on BOTH hard drives. I couldn't access any of my recorded shows. And this has happened to other users with TWC and Comcast DVRs.

    I think i've read that the same thing happens with a Tivo if the external hard drive fails, so on my Premiere and Series 3 i just replaced the factory hard drive with a larger one. Too scared of external drives.
     
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  16. b_scott

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    this.

    personally I'd be wary of making too much of an investment in cable right now. in my opinion, IPTV is about to take over and it could use its own system outside of cable cards and even standard DVRs (might just all be remote streaming).
     
  17. NYHeel

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    Have you seen any comments on the WD30EZRZ? Amazon.com: WD Blue 3TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD30EZRZ: Computers & Accessories
    It's a little cheaper and it seems to have similar specs to the Red drives.
     
  18. NashGuy

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    I'm not necessarily suggesting that you don't buy new TiVo equipment and/or lifetime service but I agree with b_scott that you should at least be aware that Comcast's days of supporting TiVo may be limited. Comcast is transitioning the technology standards they use for delivering their cable TV service, from QAM to IPTV. The CableCARDs that allow your TiVos to work with Comcast are dependent on the older QAM technology. Once Comcast fully transitions over to IPTV, it's likely that existing TiVos won't be able to work with Comcast TV any more. (However, if your TiVo can work with an over-the-air antenna, that functionality won't be affected -- you'll still be able to watch and record those non-cable channels, assuming you get good antenna reception where you live.)

    The question is how long will it take for Comcast's transition to complete -- two years? Five years? Will it happen all at once (meaning the TiVo suddenly cannot access any channels) or will it happen gradually (meaning the TiVo loses access to one block/tier of channels, then another block later, then another, until eventually they're all transitioned from QAM to IPTV)?

    Comcast hasn't made any public statements about this transition and it's possible that they'll continue delivering at least some of the most popular channels via QAM -- and therefore to TiVos -- indefinitely. We honestly don't know. But there is reason to believe that it's coming.

    All that said, if you bought new TiVo equipment with lifetime service and couldn't use it more than a couple years with Comcast, maybe the cost would be worth it to you. And there would still be other TV systems across the country at that point that would continue to work with TiVo, so you could sell your used equipment on eBay and recoup some of the upfront cost. TiVos with lifetime service retain a lot of resale value. Just some additional info to keep in mind...
     
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  19. memoody

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    Ah - I like that idea too. Decisions decisions...
     
  20. memoody

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    I remember reading something a long time ago when I replaced my very first Tivo drive, and I never went the external route.
     

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