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What irritations have you noticed in the Roamio's UI?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by chrispitude, Dec 24, 2013.

  1. Dec 31, 2013 #21 of 111
    astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I'm confused. What should Clear do when in TiVo Central? I always thought it was to clear any on-screen displays, and as a quick-delete in most places where a delete can be performed.
     
  2. Dec 31, 2013 #22 of 111
    DeltaOne

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    While I do use Clear to delete individual programs and groups of recordings, I use it mostly when I mis-type a number when changing channels.
     
  3. Dec 31, 2013 #23 of 111
    laria

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    Something I noticed the other day... I have always hit the FF button a 4th time to make it stop (and same with Rewind), but on the Roamio, it doesn't seem to do anything. I've retrained my brain to hit Play instead about 3/4 of the time now, so I'm sure it won't be long before I do it all the time. Just that screwed me up a bunch initially as I would FF past about 10 min of show trying to figure out why I couldn't stop it. :)
     
  4. Dec 31, 2013 #24 of 111
    moyekj

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    SPS88S backdoor entered while playing back a recording will give you old behavior if you really like it. (Like most other SPS codes it needs to be re-entered upon each reboot).
     
  5. Dec 31, 2013 #25 of 111
    laria

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    That's good to know... but I'd probably forget to re-enter it so I'll just finish retraining my brain. :D
     
  6. Dec 31, 2013 #26 of 111
    videobruce

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    Absolutely nothing wrong with that!
    Mediocrity is not a good thing.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2013 #27 of 111
    tombot

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    This is my first tivo, that I've had for less than a month.

    The preview window that shows in the "grid guide" view, is distracting. The 8 rows of channel listings are harder to read because they've been compressed to accommodate the preview window. Preview windows should always be "an option" during the time you're trying to read text, because they usually end up looking like distracting strobe lights as the images change so quickly. So distracting that I find I am always hitting the pause button after going into the channel guide. I suppose I could set up a macro on my new universal remote to cause the pause to happen, but -- does anyone know of a code to turn off that preview window?
     
  8. Dec 31, 2013 #28 of 111
    laria

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    There is a setting in the settings menu. I can't remember where and I'm not at my TV right now, but there was an option to have the preview window on or off. And you can always turn it off manually by hitting the Slow-Mo button... and maybe Zoom someone mentioned in here?

    Edit: Never mind, Zoom was to take you back to full screen. So, just the Slow-Mo button to close the preview window manually.
     
  9. Dec 31, 2013 #29 of 111
    HVYCHVY

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    I just bought my Roamio after my S3 died. I noticed when in the Settings & Messages, only the Help page is in HD, The others look like crappy SD with the large print and kinda fuzzy looking.
     
  10. Jan 1, 2014 #30 of 111
    CloudAtlas

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    Not putting something under a microscope in no way implies mediocrity. These threads just scream for OCD types and nit pickers to find things that would be given such low-priority that no engineer in his right mind would ever risk time looking into. Software nowadays has become large and complex with a never ending list of enhancements and new development.

    But maybe TiVo will divert the streaming team or android team for a couple of months to fix the brief sound cut-out or video pause when entering TiVo Central. Be careful what you wish for. :)
     
  11. Jan 1, 2014 #31 of 111
    Zu Nim

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    When you pay above-average for a product you expect above-average attention to the details. Most of the nits are very likely to be low-hanging fruit that can be easily fixed. Engineers can figure out when to cut their losses fixing non-showstoppers. And squashing a bunch of easy bugs is one of the simplest ways to show initiative possible, which I consider right-minded.

    Unless you're working out of your garage, software has always been large and complex with a never ending list of new development. The locus of the challenges changes. Complexities get abstracted away because the underlying techniques have matured, so there's room for a different set of complexities. But not so much more complexity overall.
     
  12. Jan 1, 2014 #32 of 111
    tombot

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    The setting that you are talking about only turns it off in Tivo Central mode. The preview window is still there in the channel guide Grid Guide mode. The SloMo button has no effect.
    Anyone know a code to turn it off?
    Or
    How do I submit a trouble or annoyance report on this issue?
     
  13. Jan 2, 2014 #33 of 111
    slowbiscuit

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    LOL, you must not have been using Tivos for long. They live for annoying, head-scratching issues that pretty much anyone that pays attention to details would have fixed long ago. Not to mention taking away basic options for stuff like live TV buffer size, Mini sleep timers, a screensaver vs. live TV, etc. Or breaking as much stuff as they fix with every release.

    It's the Tivo Way (tm), and it's mostly caused by no one else in the market pushing them to do better.
     
  14. Jan 3, 2014 #34 of 111
    Zu Nim

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    I must not have. I only have 13+ years of using TiVos. :rolleyes: I was addressing software engineering generally, not so much TiVo.

    A lack of retail competition hurts, but there's competition in the cable-provider space that they're now focused on. Unfortunately for users, that competitive bar is actually lower than where TiVo stands today so it's not going to help with the details either.
     
  15. Jan 3, 2014 #35 of 111
    Fred C Dobbs

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    Thanks much for this tip!

    FCD
     
  16. Jan 3, 2014 #36 of 111
    laria

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    I don't know if this is really a UI irritation... I guess it is, although I think this is how it worked on my S3, too, but I didn't seem to have as much trouble with this on those.

    Our Roamio has started recording a lot of suggestions that are repeats of shows that I have season passes set up that are set to "New Only". So this is screwing up my folder sorting by date, since it's pushing the show folders to the top of the list due to the date on the recorded suggestion. My S3's hardly ever seemed to record shows as suggestions that I had season passes for. I can only think of one show that it did once in a while.
     
  17. Feb 6, 2014 #37 of 111
    wtherrell

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    I have two Tivos together and use a single older model remote with a two positon DVR switch to control them. There are no A,B,C,D buttons on this remote. This morning one of the Tivos (HDUI) had rebooted and the My Shows menu had spontaneously reverted to being sorted by date instead of my preferred alphabetically. On my SDUI Tivo I just hit "Enter" to bring up a sort menu, or number key "1" to change between sort orders. This apparently doesn't work on the HDUI menu. Any one know how to work this with this remote? Alternatively, a dual switch remote with the A,B,C, buttons?
    I had to hunt up the newer remote, put batteries in it. Hit the "B" button to change the sort order. Then remove the batteries and re-file the newer remote back in the junk-box. Probably won't have to do this very often but would like a more convenient way.
     
  18. Feb 6, 2014 #38 of 111
    shadoh

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    I've only been using my Roamio for a week (upgraded from an S3 HD XL), so I'm sure I'll find more.


    • I agree with the original poster - scrolling between my programs using Chan Up/Down is something I used a ton, and I'm going to miss it.
    • I really miss the Recording History from my S3 menu in the To Do list. The new option in the To Do list to show w/ Conflicts, etc, and the separate History window, just don't seem quite as intuitive as the old Recording History view, and there seems to be a lot more "junk" to sift through in the new views.
    • Once I get used to menus and I know what's coming up, I tend to Select/Select/Select (or right arrow right arrow right arrow) when I know where I'm going. Many times, even the fancy new fast interface doesn't seem to quite keep up, and I get BONG BONG BONG until the menu finishes refreshing. Even my slow S3 didn't do this - it would queue my button presses and respond when it finished processing (which was a good thing in my experience).
    • I don't know if I'd consider it ads, but the top banner with suggested shows is pretty annoying. "In My Shows"... yes, I know, thanks, I don't need you to remind me. Also, I do occasionally use Amazon Video, but not very often, so while I don't want to hide it from my Video Providers, I also don't care to see suggestions on the banner for Amazon titles.
    • I don't like that plain text has been replaced by icons in some menus, such as when selecting in a Season Pass whether to record New, Repeats, or All, the "NEW" is a picture instead of just text.
    • I know I'm in the minority here, but I've never been a fan of 30-second skip. I've tried it and tried it, and just don't like it. Luckily, in my use of Series 1, Series 2, and Series 3 boxes, it was always off by default, and you had to use the SPS code to enable it. Now, I'm being forced to use my Advance button as a 30-second fast forward, with no option to set it back to simple advance.
     
  19. Feb 6, 2014 #39 of 111
    shadoh

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    The remote change is a whole separate issue/area of frustration for me. :) I'm not a fan, but I'm trying to force myself to get used to it. As far as a 1/2 remote with ABCD on it, I don't think such a thing exists. It looks like it's EITHER the 1/2 switch, OR the ABCD buttons. Ugh. :(
     
  20. Feb 6, 2014 #40 of 111
    randian

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    The worst UI flaw is, IMO, the wishlist UI no longer only shows wishlists with matching shows when listing matches. It wastes huge amounts of vertical space showing you wishlists that don't have matching shows. The older UI didn't do that. Stupid!

    I also see that episodes will appear in the season pass listing, but not in the main upcoming shows listing.
     

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