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Whale Wars

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by EVizzle, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. Jayjoans

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    Unbelievable yet again.

    I thought FOR SURE that they weren't that stupid. I figured that after they towed around a couple of cameramen and a sound guy around the ferry dock that they would most certainly lead the police to a decoy van that had nothing in it as the real car or van drove off the ferry unnoticed. To think that they could be on a very small island that has just featured Paul Watson and the SS on the front page of their newspaper and assume they could go ANYWHERE on the island unnoticed is just plain clinical stupidity.

    When they reported that the devices were gone my jaw dropped. How anybody can contribute money to this "circus of the sea" is beyond me.

    Pmyers- to answer your question I think they figured they would be confiscated when they did their stem to stern customs inspection when the arrived at the dock. They must have at least one super-duper hiding place though, no doubt there's a stash of weed on there somewhere. Maybe they did the research beforehand and found out that there's no need for drug sniffing dogs on the island so they were safe.
     
  2. pmyers

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    so is that sonar equipment illegal? Maybe I missed that.
     
  3. Jayjoans

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    I have no idea whether or not it's illegal, but I bet if those were found on the SS boat when it docked they wouldn't have been confiscated for further review. I'm assuming the Faroe customs agents would have known there was only one use for them so they wouldn't have been left on the boat.

    (I act like I know what I'm talking about, but I really have no clue...)
     
  4. pmyers

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    I'm more likely to think that this equipment doesn't even exist and they are just making it up! lol
     
  5. May 1, 2012 #365 of 435
    nataylor

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    It's very hard to be sympathetic to Sea Shepard's cause here. In the antarctic, I think they at least had a valid claim (the Japanese were operating in an internationally recognized whale sanctuary, clearly for the purpose of harvesting whale meat and not research as the treaty they signed required, and they were harvesting some whales that were endangered). Here, the people are operating lawfully in their own sovereign waters, not in violation of any treaty, harvesting a species that would seem, from my research, to be of a healthy population.

    I've got no problem with them shining the spotlight on what seems to be to be a barbaric and unnecessary slaughter, in an effort to sway world opinion. But actually violating local laws and interfering with the hunt seems unjustifiable.
     
  6. May 1, 2012 #366 of 435
    pmyers

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    I'm assuming this country must not have a Navy or Coast Guard?!?
     
  7. May 1, 2012 #367 of 435
    Jayjoans

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    The Faroe Islands are a territory of Denmark.

    The Royal Danish Navy: "The RDN is mainly responsible for maritime defence and maintaining the sovereignty of Danish, Greenlandic and Faroese territorial waters. Other tasks include surveillance, search and rescue, icebreaking, oil spill recovery and prevention as well as contributions to international tasks and forces."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Danish_Navy

    Hang on...."The islands form a self-governing country under the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark. The total area is approximately 1,400 kmĀ² (540 sq mi) with a 2010 population of almost 50,000 people" So I guess they are a country, but they rely on Denmark for military, police, justice and foreign affairs.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroe
     
  8. May 1, 2012 #368 of 435
    windracer

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    I'm not sure how they expected to get those sonar devices smuggled across the ferry ... seems like a dumb idea.

    It takes balls (or lack of common sense?) to dock in "enemy" territory like that. That rowdy group at the end of the episode seems like trouble. How is a crew of 10 going to prevent a crowd like that from boarding them?

    Going to be an interesting season ...
     
  9. May 1, 2012 #369 of 435
    pmyers

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    totally agree and very similiar to my earlier post. They also consume the meat locally and do not export it.
     
  10. May 2, 2012 #370 of 435
    Jayjoans

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    I Googled around a bit searching "Sea Shepherd" and "Faroe" and read some interesting articles about what happened during their stay. Clearly the TV shows are months old, so I wanted to see what was reported. Don't go looking if you don't want to know....

    I won't mention what happened with the Sea Shepherd operations per se, but it does look like the heightened awareness has bred some stronger resistance to the grinds by locals on the island. It was also mentioned that due to the high mercury content of the whales they are recommending that children and pregnant women don't eat the whale meat at all, and everybody else should only eat it once a year. The oldsters blow that off as BS, but it may be the mercury issue could have more of a cooling effect on the grinds than the aqua-hippies and their stinky butter bombs.
     
  11. May 2, 2012 #371 of 435
    pmyers

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    I still wonder if that town could have just denied them from docking or if they have to let them in.
     
  12. May 2, 2012 #372 of 435
    bareyb

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    I wonder the same... I think they wanted a chance to tell their side, and I think it worked. To me the Faroe folks come off more sympathetic due to the show. I wouldn't be surprised if the producers of WW spoke to the local politicians and told them the best way to fight Paul Watson is with his own methods. Use the media to get your view out there. I for one, think this episode helped them more than Watson hurt them. Just look at the remarks in this thread. ;)
     
  13. May 2, 2012 #373 of 435
    justen_m

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    Yeah. The only thing I can think of is that they wanted the world to see what, well, we have. It is a shrug. They are harvesting a renewable resource the most humane way possible, IMO. Compared to cattle slaughter? Yeah, fair comparison.

    Aqua hippies are in the territorial waters of Denmark. A NATO country.
    Unfortunately, I'm guessing any real deal would have made the news months ago, so this will just be allowed to fizzle, and we won't enjoy the USN or RBN blowing them away.
     
  14. May 4, 2012 #374 of 435
    pmyers

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    Can't wait to see what the Aqua Hippies are up to tonight! lol
     
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    Saw the preview for Whale Wars (Southern Ocean) starting in June. Awesome!
     
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    justen_m

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    Ment

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    I'd love to see Paul get hauled away even if its just for a day until he bails out.
     
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    I would like to see a show where Japanese guys follow the bloated captain around and throw stuff at him when eating beef, chicken etc.
     
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    pmyers

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    nataylor

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    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ing-organisation-sea-shepherd/article7039373/

    Paul Watson resigns as leader of anti-whaling organisation Sea Shepherd

     

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