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We've begun updating TiVo Stream for out-of-home streaming

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by TiVoMargret, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Nov 14, 2013 #81 of 171
    noone3000

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    I have the same feeling you have. I'm currently staying in a hospital using its wifi which maxes out at .7 to 1mbps, and the quality on a Slingbox 350 is actually quite impressive. When I stream using my tethered LTE connection (about 3-6mbps). The quality is absolutely superb. If it weren't for the 5gb unlimited speed throttle, I would always use the LTE. One can run through that 5gb fairly fast when streaming video!

    I would like to think that TiVo can match Slingbox's quality, but at this point, I have my doubts.
     
  2. Nov 14, 2013 #82 of 171
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    If TiVo fixes OOH downloads so they don't pause every 5 minutes then OOH downloads would be solution for these problems. You start a download and let it buffer for a while and then start watching while it downloads. Quality for downloads is not affected by bandwidth limitations as it uses a fixed preset quality. Obviously for poor connections you would have to wait longer for the download to buffer. The big advantage over Sling with this method is that trick play controls are instant vs laggy Sling controls. Also with Sling on bad connections the quality is affected and nothing you can do about it.
     
  3. Nov 14, 2013 #83 of 171
    mr_smits

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    I read this recently:

    Source: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ording-and-roaming-but-cable-keeps-calling/4/

    :thumbsdown: Hugely disappointing to read that there is no real timeline for Android app and there are no plans for browser streaming. If I can translate: that means expect the 2014 Android timeline to slip yet again, and browser streaming may be years away, if ever.
     
  4. Nov 14, 2013 #84 of 171
    CloudAtlas

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    Now it all makes sense why you keep posting about the *same* thing over and over. You are bored sitting in a hospital bed!

    But to your question Slingbox's software is mature and has been improved over many years. They have been supporting iOS since 2009 and other platforms since 2006?
    It should be the best out there. TiVo is just rolling out it's first attempt at Out-Of-Home(OOH) streaming.

    So you are comparing TiVo OOH Streaming 1.0.0.0 vs SlingPlayer for iPhone 3.6.16 /iPad 2.6.6 and can't understand why a 1.0 release is not as good?
    What kind of hospital did you say you're staying in? <kidding> :D

    I also think TiVo hurried this release out for the Holiday/Christmas shopping season. The next 1.1 release w/o artificial deadlines will fix most outstanding problems.
    Yes, that doesn't help you sitting in the hospital but I will back up what I'm saying by offering to buy the Stream off you for cost + shipping. How's that?

    Even the SlingPlayer software after 5 years has it's problems. Just look at the recent bug release

    What's New in Version 3.6.16
    - Improved streaming quality and better adaptiveness to bandwidth fluctuations for Slingbox 500 users (Slingbox 350 support coming soon)
    - Bug fixes

    What's New in Version 2.4.4
    Bug fix related to app crashes for iOS 5.x users

    And here is the latest review of the latest SlingBox software from one user:

    No longer functions, Pro-non HD

    by Chili Colorado
    Was watching World Series, checked between innings and found update, updated and now it either locks up, or fails to initiate (20 minutes).
    How do I get older app? Will it be fixed for us early SlingBox purchasers?
     
  5. Nov 14, 2013 #85 of 171
    Dan203

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    Adobe recently added encrypted HLS support to Flash player, so it seems like they could create an HTML based "app" and use Flash player for the streaming to a browser. There are even common fall back techniques one can use that will allow it to function on iOS and Android devices which support HLS natively. Although the streaming is only part of it. They'd still have to do the whole UI of the app in HTML5. Perhaps they don't see a big enough market for browser/PC based streaming to invest in that development?
     
  6. Nov 14, 2013 #86 of 171
    TiVoMargret

    TiVoMargret VP Product Dev, TiVo

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    Hi all,

    We will be authorizing another (large) batch of TiVo Stream boxes for the out-of-home streaming update today. It should be available after 6pm Pacific.

    --Margret
     
  7. Nov 14, 2013 #87 of 171
    noone3000

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    Thanks Margaret.

    And thanks for sticking with all us whiners.

    :)
     
  8. Nov 14, 2013 #88 of 171
    apw2607

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    Yes, thanks for keeping us all up to date on the roll out plans.
     
  9. Nov 14, 2013 #89 of 171
    BlackBetty

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  10. Nov 14, 2013 #90 of 171
    Rohardi

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    And I was able to download OOH streaming. Newest batch must be out now!
     
  11. Nov 14, 2013 #91 of 171
    Rohardi

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    quality is a little better than at first now....
     
  12. Nov 14, 2013 #92 of 171
    BlackBetty

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    I just got it!! Yippeeeeee
     
  13. Nov 14, 2013 #93 of 171
    SugarBowl

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    On the setup screen, it used to say mobile devices 8 of 50. Now it says 8 of 12.

    How do I reset this ? We only have 2 iPhones.




    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  14. Nov 14, 2013 #94 of 171
    Bulldawg9908

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    Got the Stream update. Now, if only I had the Premiere update. I've emailed Margret again, but she didn't answer me the first time, so I'm not holding my breath. :(
     
  15. Nov 14, 2013 #95 of 171
    Cheezmo

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    I also need to reset the mobile devices. I bought my stream used and 4 were used up. I wasn't concerned when it said 6 out of 50, but now it says 6 of 12 and with 4 family members with phones and iPads I may well reach the limit.
     
  16. Nov 14, 2013 #96 of 171
    untfan

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    Same Here. There used to be an option to release all clients in the previous release when you went into full system information and click on the clients tab... However that seems to have been removed with this release.

    They need to provide a means to do a global release.
     
  17. Nov 14, 2013 #97 of 171
    moyekj

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    You can release all clients as follows. With a browser use this URL (obviously replace <StreamIP> with the Stream IP address):
    http://<StreamIP>:49152/sysinfo
    Click on "Service" button then use the "reset" button in front of "Streaming Client List" text.
     
  18. Nov 14, 2013 #98 of 171
    untfan

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    I don't see that feature in the OOH Streaming release. Clicking on the service button only shows a Call Now button. If you click on the Client button you don't see any options like you did with the previous release.
     
  19. Nov 15, 2013 #99 of 171
    moyekj

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    This is what I see:
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    EDIT: Note that I haven't actually tried the reset button so don't know if it actually works or not...
     

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  20. untfan

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    That's interesting... I don't see that when I click on Service - After Streaming Clients I have Last TCD Call State, then Next Service Call and the a button to Force Service Call. According to the App I am running 19.1.3b-01-6. And I have forced a couple of Service Calls since the upgrade to see if that enabled the other screen. I even deactivated and re-activated through the TiVo website but that didn't release the unused clients either.
     

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