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We've begun updating TiVo Stream for out-of-home streaming

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by TiVoMargret, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Nov 12, 2013 #61 of 171
    moyekj

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    Mission...
    If/when the OOH download problem is resolved then it will have advantages over Slingbox solution since the controls are instant vs Slingbox can get a long delay.
     
  2. Nov 13, 2013 #62 of 171
    noone3000

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    Ok, but with the same equal internet connection, which shows a better picture in Auto Stream mode on an iPad Retina - Slingbox or Stream?

    I have 14 days left to return my Stream.

    I sure hope they push the update out soon to me.
     
  3. Nov 13, 2013 #63 of 171
    supasta

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    I am implying that one "group" was pushed the update on 11/6, and as of 11/11, there was not another "group" that was sent the update. Two days later (as of this post), no other post from Margret, and no posts from forum users having received the update.

    Was there an issue with the first push? Was there an issue identified in the update? Why the delay?

    It is frustrating that TiVo continues to be unprepared.
     
  4. Nov 13, 2013 #64 of 171
    SugarBowl

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    There has been a major issue of downloads not working.
     
  5. Nov 13, 2013 #65 of 171
    CloudAtlas

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    I'd return the Stream because there is no guarantee that the rollout will be completed within the next two weeks. As Margret mentioned in her post "If your TiVo Stream was not in this first batch, it should be updated within a couple of weeks."

    Software from TiVo and other companies (Apple, Roku,Google) are done in waves over days or weeks. When problems are found with the software in earlier waves upcoming waves are put on hold until the problem is solved.

    Even if things go well the software rollout is never immediate. The *problem* is that the people (techie guys) who read this forum want access to updates immediately. They will start asking for an update release date 6 months in advance!

    Then if they don't get the software on the EXACT day they were promised they complain. Then when they get the software update they complain if it's not 100% bug free. Which it won't be because all software has bugs.

    Honestly I've no idea why Margret even bothers with this group as it's a lose lose situation for her. Unfortunately all the constant complainers one day will ruin it for all of us when she just stops bothering to tell us in advance about updates and letting us jump to the front of the line.
     
  6. Nov 13, 2013 #66 of 171
    tre74

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    Don't put any ideas in her head.:D
     
  7. Nov 13, 2013 #67 of 171
    noone3000

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    Cheezmo

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    I can't think of any case in recent history where Apple has rolled out an update. Sometimes it takes a few hours to propagate to all the regional mirrors or something, but when an update is available it goes to everyone at once.
     
  9. Nov 13, 2013 #69 of 171
    apw2607

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    Yea, i agree, however I think Roku recently rolled out their UI update in waves. Originally available on the Roku 3 .. and then slowly out to the older devices.

    I'm not sure what all the fuss is about anyway. It will be available when its available. The thought of folks asking if they should return product because the feature is not switched on yet - come on ... seriously?
     
  10. Nov 13, 2013 #70 of 171
    noone3000

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    Are you saying that I should just "trust" that out of home streaming will eventually work well??

    I usually like to first audition a product before I decide to keep it.

    Come on.....seriously?
     
  11. Nov 13, 2013 #71 of 171
    WVZR1

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    If you actually wanted to base your purchase on the "satisfaction of OOH" why wouldn't you have waited for "good reviews" - you chose to be the "early adopter" I'd guess so why complain about the "auditions" now -

    you nailed this part though "Come on ..... seriously?"
     
  12. Nov 13, 2013 #72 of 171
    Loach

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    I know it's not available now, but is OOH viewing via a web browser in Tivo's work plan for the Stream? Not really interested if my son can't watch on his laptop in a dorm room.
     
  13. Nov 13, 2013 #73 of 171
    Dan203

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    We have no idea. TiVo's not usually very forthcoming about future plans. We know they are working on an Android version of the app, but no word on other platforms.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2013 #74 of 171
    Austin Bike

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    I used to frequent the enthusiast sites for my company's products even though I was never paid to do it and it was not part of my job duties. I always identified myself and there was a link in my signature to my corporate blog so people could verify who I was. For a long time everything was cool, but then one day there was a product problem and it went from reasonable people to threats of harm. I dropped out of all of the forums. Received plenty of positive mail, but that was never worth me bothering to go back.

    Let's all cut Margaret some slack, there may be problems, but she's on the good side of things.
     
  15. Nov 13, 2013 #75 of 171
    noone3000

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    Because it's on clearance for $68??? Limited supplies at that price.
     
  16. Nov 13, 2013 #76 of 171
    CloudAtlas

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    From the links you provided:

    Check compatibility
    Before installation, make sure that your DVR and iOS device are compatible with out-of-home streaming, and that your home network is functioning.

    Out-of-Home Streaming is also available on 4-tuner Roamio or Premiere Series DVRs running software version 20.3.7.1a or higher using the standalone TiVo Stream running software version 19.1.3b-01-6-A94 or higher.


    Network requirements

    Out-of-home streaming requires a fast, reliable Internet connection between your DVR and iOS device. For the best experience, make sure your setup meets the following requirements:

    Home network

    TiVo strongly recommends that you use Ethernet or MoCA to connect your DVR to your home network. Wireless networking of any kind is by nature slower and less reliable than a wired connection, and can affect your ability to successfully stream content.

    Internet connection

    TiVo recommends a high-bandwidth Internet connection, such as cable or fiber optic. DSL connections are slower and might not provide the best out-of-home streaming experience.

    Network at viewing location

    If your iOS device is connected to a network with limited bandwidth or heavy traffic, the TiVo App for iOS automatically lowers the video quality. To improve quality, select Download from the menu bar to download the recorded program or in-progress recording to your iOS device. Once a download has started, the program can be viewed.
     
  17. Nov 14, 2013 #77 of 171
    moyekj

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    And should be ammended to say with current software: "and you will have to restart the download every 5 minutes".
     
  18. Nov 14, 2013 #78 of 171
    BlackBetty

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    I guess Marg wasn't joking when she said weeks. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Nov 14, 2013 #79 of 171
    beobuff

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    My Tivo Stream has not yet received the OOH upgrade, but I have the nagging feeling that it is probably not going to work terribly well for me when I do receive it. My primary use would be in a hotel or motel room away from home, and many of these have wi-fi networks of dubious quality and speed, something over which Tivo has no control.

    So far I have been simply downloading programs from my Tivo to my iPad or iPhone while at home and taking them with me on trips. While OOH on-line streaming would give me access to newer programs and not be dependent on portable device storage capacity, I am not expecting it to replace pre-recorded programs. I suspect it would be well not to have overly optimistic expectations of what the OOH technology can actually deliver.
     
  20. Nov 14, 2013 #80 of 171
    Austin Bike

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    Streaming to a hotel room would be nice, but what I would really like to do is download to a device remotely. I have limited space on my iPad so after watching 8 hours of TV on the way to Europe I'd love to be able to set it up to refill itself for the flight home. I can let it run all night if needed.
     

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