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We've begun updating TiVo Stream for out-of-home streaming

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by TiVoMargret, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Nov 9, 2013 #41 of 171
    TC25D

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    Because it's all about them and they think if they pollute every thread with their whining, they will get what they want.
     
  2. Nov 9, 2013 #42 of 171
    slowbiscuit

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    Uh yeah, so why can't you stream CP'd channels out of home then, with encryption?? And why is it that the HD Homerun Prime streams all the non-CP'd stuff via DLNA using unencrypted mpeg2 and Tivo doesn't? The only channels requiring DTCP-IP are CP'd ones on the Prime, but what you're implying here is that Tivo is encrypting everything even if it's non-CP'd.

    IMO this issue exists solely because Tivo is in bed with the cableCos, not because they can't do it without encryption. They could've supported Android when the Stream was released for non CP'd channels, but they chose not to.
     
  3. Nov 9, 2013 #43 of 171
    Dan203

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    What are they suppose to do use a completely different method for streaming non-protected stuff? Seriously?!? They chose HLS because it met a wide array of criteria, one of which us an encryption standard approved by Cable Labs. It is also a purposed standard, very easy to work with, and supported by all iOS devices which was their original target. If they didn't need the approval of Cable Labs then they migh have chosen a different technology. But maybe not.
     
  4. Nov 9, 2013 #44 of 171
    Dan203

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    The Roamio uses the same hardware that's inside the standalone Stream just attached to the main mobo. Even though it's inside the Roamio case it can be rebooted independently and even grabs it's own IP address from your router. That's what he meant by it using the same chipset.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2013 #45 of 171
    BlackBetty

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    Margret, when is the next blast? My thumbs are getting tired from forcing service calls.
     
  6. Nov 10, 2013 #46 of 171
    Devx

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    Did you email Margret with the serial no. of your Stream? It's worth a try. She has responded very quickly based on other threads and posts.

    Otherwise, the update could be next week or just as easily several weeks out. Think of all the wasted time on service calls...
     
  7. Nov 10, 2013 #47 of 171
    slowbiscuit

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    Uh yeah - don't use encryption at all, just like SD does. And SD has to comply with CableLabs too. It's not rocket science.

    The bottom line is that Tivo made a business decision here because they're up the butts of their cable masters, not because they couldn't do it technically.
     
  8. Nov 10, 2013 #48 of 171
    Bighouse

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    Now that OOH streaming is available I think I want to buy a stream. Anybody know any good place to buy from? (Discount code would be greatly appreciated!)
     
  9. Nov 10, 2013 #49 of 171
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  10. Nov 10, 2013 #50 of 171
    Dan203

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    The encryption isn't the problem, Android doesn't support unencrypted HLS either. They would need to use a completely different technology for them to support Android below 4.2, encryption or no. It's unlikely they are going to do that, which is why I think when the app comes out it's going to require 4.2+.
     
  11. Nov 11, 2013 #51 of 171
    spaldingclan

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  12. Nov 11, 2013 #52 of 171
    dmoss

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    Looking for that new update.
     
  13. Nov 11, 2013 #53 of 171
    TiVoMargret

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    Hi all,

    I don't have any way to push the Stream update to more people, but I will post here as soon another group has been updated.

    --Margret
     
  14. Nov 12, 2013 #54 of 171
    noone3000

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    I just bought a Stream.

    Am I hearing correctly that out of home streaming may not work out of the box because I have to WAIT for a software update???

    How do I know when it gets the software update? Do I have to keep checking the software version??
     
  15. Nov 12, 2013 #55 of 171
    consumedsoul

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    Any updates Margaret? I'm still not able to download the new update.
     
  16. Nov 12, 2013 #56 of 171
    moyekj

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    Mission...
    You can check:
    http://<StreamIP>:49152/sysinfo

    Latest software version is 19.1.3b*.
     
  17. Nov 12, 2013 #57 of 171
    Rohardi

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    When will OOH streaming be FULLY rolled out to all streams? What is the worst case scenario timeframe wise?
     
  18. Nov 12, 2013 #58 of 171
    moyekj

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    Margret, OOH downloads seem to be badly broken, suspending every 5 minutes almost as if there is a timer. That issue is being discussed here:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=510953

    Hopefully TiVo is aware of the problem and working on a fix? (I'm assuming the issue is the iOS software, not the Stream software).
    Thanks.
     
  19. Nov 12, 2013 #59 of 171
    noone3000

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    I tried for about an hour to activate my new Stream and I never could get it to work before I had to leave my house again.

    Plus when I checked the software version, it was not the OOO version mentioned earlier in this thread. I wonder how long until I can get the 'good' software?

    In-home streaming - negative
    Out of home streaming - negative

    I'm 0 for 2.

    On the plus side, my new Slingbox 350 is working perfectly with an excellent picture quality on an iPad 3.

    I have 15 days to return this to Best Buy. I really want this to work, but somehow I don't think it will ever work as well as this Slingbox from what I have gathered from reading all the issues on this forum.
     
  20. Nov 12, 2013 #60 of 171
    BlackBetty

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    This wait is painfully slow.
     

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