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Weaknees upgraded S3

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by taba469, Sep 24, 2006.

  1. Oct 11, 2006 #81 of 135
    greg_burns

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks#Concatenation_.28JBOD.29
    Just repeating what I've read. :)
     
  2. Oct 11, 2006 #82 of 135
    ashu

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    I agree with the math, but it's current. By the time I anticipate owning an S3, and further (later) when I NEED an upgrade, I'm counting on eSata being enabled and that enclosure becoming my external addong to 250GB. Oh, and lower 750GB prices. Us poorer gadget freaks have to live just (or substantially) behind the expensive bleeding edge of the curve, changing the parameters of our returns-on-cost equation, compared to your trail-blazing (burning?) path :)

    Until that happens I'm ready to upgrade an S3 I finally buy), I am hapy to use the 320GB eSATA drive externally as a program dump so I can sell 2 (or more) of my S2 TiVos to make money to afford an S3 :)
     
  3. Oct 11, 2006 #83 of 135
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  5. Oct 11, 2006 #85 of 135
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    I will bet you that the 2 WD drives together are quieter seeking than the single Seagate.

    I want to try the Accusys ACS-76130 with 3 of the WD drives (the quiet 500GB ones) in RAID 5. That would give me a fault tolerant TerraByte TiVo. The write bottlenect of the RAID 5 config should never even be approached with the TiVo disk demands. I still don't have my S3 yet (ordered from that guy who ran out of shipping boxes) so I am just a cheer leader for now.

    I wonder if there are any size limitations of the presented disk as far as the hardware and kernal are concerned? There shouldn't be at this stage, right?

    The other thing I was thinking of is could another drive be wedged into the the S3 along with the RAID 0 electronics circuit board from your Thecus N2050? I guess it would be good to get a fan in there, too. I know there is no bracket currently for another drive but is there physical space?
     
  6. Oct 11, 2006 #86 of 135
    greg_burns

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    I've read the african elephant population has tripled in the last six months.
     
  7. Oct 11, 2006 #87 of 135
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    And if you read on wikipedia that salt occurs in large grains, you would likely be mistaken too ;)
     
  8. Oct 11, 2006 #88 of 135
    c3

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    JamieP reported in another thread that the hard limit is 2TB. There may be issues with more than 1TB.
     
  9. Oct 11, 2006 #89 of 135
    greg_burns

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    I also have a SataVault w/ 2 WD 250GB drives in it. It is noticeably louder than the Thecus w /2 WD 400GB. Is it the drives or the fan? Dunno.

    Take a look for yourself at the guts of an S3. I don't think there is room myself.
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=315795

    The inside of the Thecus (sorry about the pictures, better camera is next on the list)...

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    Goofy thing about the Thecus; the HD are mounted upside down. At least upside down to what I thought was upside right. :p I recall seeing an add on WD's site showing a drive mounted upside down as well in some server blade. Guess it is not a problem. Just seemed strange.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Oct 11, 2006 #90 of 135
    ashu

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    Yeah, it doesn't look like there's place inside the S3 for another (properly mounted) whole drive and a card to change the behavious of the pair into a single, visible drive. Unless you dow hat some people did with the Humax DRT800 or Toshiba RS-TX series DVD recording TiVos and just 'put' one on top of the chips on the motherboard :eek:

    He he ... upside down :) That made me wonder ...
    My Seagate 320 7200.10 is standing on its side in the Rosewill eSATA enclosure ... so am I losing the benefits of the faster perpendicular bits? :D
     
  11. Oct 11, 2006 #91 of 135
    MichaelK

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    give weakness time- if a raid card will work on the internal sata connector they'll come up with some bracket!

    :)
     
  12. Oct 11, 2006 #92 of 135
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    Thecus is using a PCI card in there!
     
  13. Oct 11, 2006 #93 of 135
    c3

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    It's just a connector. No PCI electronics.
     
  14. Oct 13, 2006 #94 of 135
    ashu

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    (FYI, not a great deal or anything, just amazed me Costco carried such things!)

    Cavalry 2TB SATA external Hard Drive

    $999.99 Shipped (+ Tax)

    Gratuitous copy-paste ...
     
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    jlib

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    Nice. So, it comes with the hard disks at that price?

    (Not usable for Tivo, by the way)
     
  16. Oct 16, 2006 #96 of 135
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    Well I got my Sata->eSata cable today and hooked it up.

    This is with 2 400GB WD drives...

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    Surprised at how much seeking is taking place on the Thecus. Much noisier than it ever was just connected to my PC.
     
  17. Oct 16, 2006 #97 of 135
    c3

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    That's expected. Right? That's why I use Seagate on PC but not on TiVo.
     
  18. Oct 16, 2006 #98 of 135
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    Very cool stuff! I think I will end up waiting and buy a nice, quiet 750GB single drive after they have been out for a while - and the prices come down a bit - probably next summer? I think I can survive on my 250 until then. But it's very nice to see that there are other options out there! Thanks for breaking ground on this stuff.
     
  19. Oct 16, 2006 #99 of 135
    greg_burns

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    You know, I had the Thecus sitting on my son's plastic drawing table in that picture above. As soon as I set it on the floor, the noise level went way down.

    Edit: OK, it quieted done some. Not a whole lot really. :(

    In fact, since I'm now free to separate the S3 and the Thecus I may put it inside the bottom cabinet outta sight and sound. :)

    I also hadn't turned on accoustic manangement settings on these drives yet either. Anybody every figure out if you can use the Hitcachi Feature Tool with Sata drives?
     
  20. c3

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    It worked with an IDE-SATA adapter. Don't know about native SATA support.
     

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