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WD Red hard drive noise level?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by headless chicken, Nov 21, 2013.

  1. headless chicken

    headless chicken Member

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    For those that upgraded their Roamio with a Western Digital Red 2 or 3TB HD, how noisy is your drive?

    Last year I replaced my iMac's native drive with a 1TB WD Black and regretted it ever since. I originally bought the WD Green but read green wasn't suitable for every day use and was more for backup drives, etc. The black is a nonstop noise machine that makes an incessant and very loud crunching sound. Moreover, it's very slow for a drive that's supposed to be top of the line.

    Right now WD Reds seem to be on sale and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, but I don't want to save a few bucks if that means a terribly noisy drive or having performance issues.
     
  2. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    I have a 4TB Red. It isn't in the TiVo because I haven't cracked the 3TB barrier yet, but it's very comparable to Green AV drives that come in most TiVos in terms of heat and noise.

    One note - Intellipark was set at 8 seconds from the factory.
     
  3. headless chicken

    headless chicken Member

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    Thanks for your reply, ggieseke. I pulled the trigger and bought a 3TB WD Red.

    How does one know? Does that mean I have to run that wdiddle thingie? I don't know how to proceed as a Mac user.
     
  4. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    The drive has to be connected to an internal SATA bus, then boot the Mac on the Ultimate Boot CD and run wdidle3. It has different command-line options to show or modify the current Intellipark settings.

    Roamios may be able to deal with it, but I'd run the thingie.
     
  5. headless chicken

    headless chicken Member

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    That sounds complicated. Is there a step-by-step guide on how to do that here for Mac?
     
  6. MikePA1

    MikePA1 New Member

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    What's the goal of changing the Intellipark setting and does the TiVo even use it?

    Might be easier to use the drive as is?
     
  7. DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    If memory serves me, the original reason for changing it was that Series 3 boxes had soft reboot problems when Intellipark was enabled. Not sure if the problem affected other TiVo models.
     
  8. MikePA1

    MikePA1 New Member

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    This post, Click Here, proves the Red drive can be used as is, without changing any settings.
     
  9. unitron

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    Was it more expensive than a WD30EURS, or less?
     
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    I would expect any TiVo to potentially be at risk of having a problem with it, unless they modified the software in later models specifically to deal with the problem of people putting in replacement drives with this feature (which is of no use in a TiVo whatsoever) enabled.

    I'm sure they learned their lesson about making sure the drives they put in in the factory don't have it enabled.
     
  11. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    That's just it, Intellipark is not only of no use to a TiVo, since the drive is (or is supposed to be) running and fully awake whenever the TiVo is plugged in, the fact that it can screw up the reboot process (and sometimes even the cold boot) means that it's worse than useless.

    Or as The Doctor would say, it has a negative utility factor.

    :D

    The goal of changing the Intellipark setting is to disable it, or if it won't let you do that, set the timer for the maximum of 300 seconds (5 minutes), so that the TiVo motherboard never calls on it and fails to receive an answer because the drive has gone to sleep.
     
  12. headless chicken

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    I'd rather not chance it. Better to be ahead of the game before the drive has any problems or recordings on it.

    So there's been no instructions or prior threads on how to disable Intellipark with Mac?

    Depends on how much you spent for your WD30EURS. I paid $120 (no tax or shipping) and have a $30 mail in rebate for the drive, so the net price will be $90.
     
  13. unitron

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    I don't have anything in the house new enough to be able to use anything bigger than 2TB, so I haven't paid really close attention to 3TB prices, other than to note they're getting down near 2TB prices, but I've had good results with the WD20EURS, so thought the 3TB big brother might be a good choice for S5s.
     
  14. MikePA1

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    No offense, but if someone wanted to 'not chance it' and 'be ahead of the game', they should have bought the green drive in the first place.
     
  15. unitron

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    Hook the drive up to a SATA controller on the motherboard, disconnect any other WD drives, boot with the Ultimate Boot cd, find the hard drive section in the main menu, and wdidle3.exe is in there somewhere at the bottom of whichever list it's in.

    When you run that it'll launch a "virtual" floppy and load a version of DOS.

    Then you type

    wdidle3 /R

    and it reports the current Intellipark status.

    If it needs disabling,

    wdidle3 /D

    If it refuses,

    wdidle3 /S 300

    which will set the timer period to 300 seconds (5 minutes) which will amount to disabling it from a TiVo point of view.
     
  16. tomm1079

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    i hooked up a 3 TB red drive and did not worry about intellipark.

    Did this on sat. no issues as of now. transferred a ton of things over and been recording stuff.
     
  17. headless chicken

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    I'm not offended, just overly cautious.

    I did my research and the Red drive is better. Called WD and they confirmed Reds are higher performance drives than green (hence the longer warranty) and there is no Intellipark, so I should be good to go.

    If you buy a green then you have no choice but to do all the diddling nonsense.
     
  18. headless chicken

    headless chicken Member

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    Thanks for the testimonial, tom. Makes me rest a little easier.
     
  19. MikePA1

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    No, you do not. You do not have to do any 'diddling nonsense' with any drive.
     
  20. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    It was definitely enabled on my 4TB Red (WD40EFRX). Other models may vary.
     

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