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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by Ollie_3151, May 26, 2012.

  1. Ollie_3151

    Ollie_3151 New Member

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    I am looking to replace hard drive in my TCD663160.

    What is the recommendation for Western Digital Drive currently?

    Can I install 2GB drive or should I stick with 1GB drive?

    What is a good link to walk through the upgrade process?
     
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  3. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    The link quoted above is the place to go for drive selections but you should really ask yourself how much storage you need. I've got 1TB drives in my Premeire and S3HD but I don't really use anywhere near that much space because I don't tend to save recordings. If you want to save a significant number of recordings, then you might consider adding drive space to your computer instead of the Tivo and transferring them to your PC for safe keeping.
     
  4. Ollie_3151

    Ollie_3151 New Member

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    Many thanks. I will give it a go
     
  5. lrhorer

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    I agree, although with drive prices now down back to nearly where they were before the flooding, I would say one needn't ask nearly as pointedly.

    To that I would respond, "Why not?" After all, it is the TiVo that does the saving, not you.

    I agree. The TiVo is a rather poor place to store programs indefinitely. What I would say, is once the TiVo's hard drive is large enough that given the family's recording habits the FIFO storage becomes infinite, one needn't bother to expand further. For most families, this is probably between 500G and 750G. The question is not, "How much space is on the hard drive?", but rather, "How old is the oldest (non-KUID) recording on the TiVo?" As long as that amount of time is greater than the family needs to reasonably watch any program they do not want to miss, any further expansion of the TiVo produces rapidly diminishing returns on the investment. Any programs they want to watch more than once should indeed be moved to external storage, which can not only be readily expanded more or less without limit, but also can be easily backed up in case of drive failures.
     
  6. Ollie_3151

    Ollie_3151 New Member

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    My TiVo is a TCD663160 (Australian TiVoHD) and I replaced the drive with WD WD-AV 1TB WD10EURX. Using the WinMFS and the quick start process (from the mfslive site) I had the Tivo up and running in about hour.

    Hardest part of the process was
    - Sorting out the SATA ports on the old desktop to use WinMFS
    - Tools to get into the case.

    The software process was very straight forward.

    I will test it out of the next week and see how it goes.

    Many thanks to all
     
  7. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    Just as a heads up, you can use inexpensive USB to IDE/SATA adapter cables to do Tivo imaging. In fact, that is all I've ever used and I've imaged several S1, S2, and S3 drives. Done them mostly with my desktop and WinMFS but also have done it with my laptop and WinTools.
     
  8. poppagene

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    Don't you still need to connect to mainboard sata to run the wdidle program?
     
  9. lpwcomp

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    Yes, if intellipark is enabled on the drive.

    According to WD, the following drives have this feature which can be disabled via wdidle3:

    WD20EADS, WD20EARS, WD15EADS, WD15EARS, WD10EADS, WD10EARS, WD8000AARS, WD7500AADS, WD7500AARS, WD6400AADS, WD6400AARS, WD5000AADS, WD5000AARS
     
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    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Wasn't there a Tivo software update that removed the boot-failure problem caused by Intellipark?
     
  12. lpwcomp

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    Huh. I hadn't heard that but I googled "TiVo intellipark" and one of the things that came up was this, so supposedly they fixed it more than 2 years ago. Except that the last post in the thread indicated it was broken again. Bottom line: If it is not too much effort, direct connect the drive and run wdidle3. Intellipark is a totally useless feature in a TiVo. If it is difficult, then try it in the TiVo and see if there is a soft boot problem.

    The other interesting thing this revealed to me is that this problem existed in some of the HD XLs with the stock drive.
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    I wouldn't assume that just because Newegg says it has IntelliPark that it actually does. I know it's still possible that it does but it doesn't really make sense for a drive designed for video applications.
     
  14. poppagene

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    western digital lists this as a feature of their av-gp series
     
  15. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    So they do. That's just dumb.
     
  16. farmermac

    farmermac Recorder of shows

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    For the price difference between the larger drives, I'd max out the capacity. The difference between a 640gb, 750gb and. 1tb drive isn't very big. In the future, you will never be upset to have an extra 50 hours of recording but you might miss it. If you intend on selling it, the larger drive is a huge plus since you can only upgrade from the original drive image once.
     
  17. A J Ricaud

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    That's a good idea but will only work if the recordings are unencrypted. Unfortunately, it seems that most cable operators prevent transferring just about everything but the OTA network channels.
     
  18. lpwcomp

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    You're evidence in support of that statement? At least here, Comcast only sets the CC1 byte ( this is what prevents copying, not encryption) on premium channels.
     
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    I'm not sure that would be possible, since WD's solution involves screwing around with the firmware of the drive.

    Maybe the TiVo could do it on the original drive installed at the factory, but I wouldn't expect it to be automatically able to handle any larger different model number replacement drives.
     
  20. farmermac

    farmermac Recorder of shows

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    TiVo supplies the software to do this on their site...
     

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