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Way to empty entire "Recently Deleted" folder?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by johnk, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. whirljack

    whirljack New Member

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    I have to get accustomed to having a new folder on my screen but trust me, I went thru the trouble of deleting things one by one since I didn't want to see useless information in the folder. I do the same thing on my computer; if I throw something in the recycle bin, then I clear it straight away. Sorry if I sound OCD, but I've always been that way!
     
  2. mrjam2jab

    mrjam2jab Still Learning

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    I can help you with the computer....push/hold shift before delete....permanent deletion with no Recycle bin involved.... :)
     
  3. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    I want one of those. :D
     
  4. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    Those Items don't stay there long, at least on my 80 hour unit.
     
  5. Fl_Gulfer

    Fl_Gulfer Tivo's R Us

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    What gives them the right to add things to our systems without asking us first?
     
  6. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    Its a mixed bag with this stuff. Sometimes I like it (Recently deleted items) other times I wish they'd have an option to turn things off (Yahoo items in Music, Photos, Products, and More).

    Overall the items they've added are good. MRV, HME, T2G.
     
  7. TiVo Ninja

    TiVo Ninja New Member

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    Read the TOS, particularly section 3.

    I can't post URLs yet, so go to tivo dott comm (sorry for the extra letters, but they really make it hard for new posters to include a link) slash support & click Service Agreements under "Related Links" on the right side of the page, go click "TiVo Service Agreement".
     
  8. mrjam2jab

    mrjam2jab Still Learning

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    I watched a one hour show last nite...then deleted it. Immediately Scrolled down the NP list to my PC, which is below RD....and RD was already empty! And folks are worried about having to delete things twice?? :p
     
  9. ebf

    ebf New Member

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    Me too! I've NEVER seen anything in my RD folder. Even after deleting several shows within a couple minutes. My box is nearly always full. I keep meaning to check the living room box to see if it shows the same results.
     
  10. Denise_Z

    Denise_Z New Member

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    Excuse my ignorance (we got are machine just a day or two before the folder was added so we didn't have anything to delete when they did) but could you restore a deleted recording before the folder exisited? If not, it seems to me that the whole point of having the folder is so you could see what you have deleted in case you trashed something by mistake. If you deleted something before they came up with the recently deleted folder, where did you look to find recordings that you threw away by mistake?

    As far as keeping the drive "clean" even emptying the trash (recycle bin for those of you unfortunate enough not to have a Mac) doesn't actualy delete the files. They are stilll on the drive until they are written over by something else, you just can't see them.
     
  11. hitbyatrain

    hitbyatrain Your Hero

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    That's exactly the point. You couldn't do this before, and I bet that 99% of the people who have TiVos either love it, or don't care one way or another. The other 1%? They just need something to gripe about.
     
  12. dtreese

    dtreese New Member

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    Hey, I'm holding you all to this. I already quit T-Mobile because they didn't put out. "Get More" my rear. I didn't get any. From them, anyway.
     
  13. jemenake

    jemenake New Member

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    Uh... maybe because I'm about to copy a 160GB TiVo drive to another and I don't want it to take frickin' forever... so I want to delete a bunch of suggestions and then purge the RD folder so that I don't have to wait to copy those to the new drive.

    Please, TiVo, add this feature in. It doesn't have to be a menu item... it could be a back-door thing. Maybe, pressing "clear" twice in a row when in RD could take you to a "purge all deleted?" screen.

    - Joe
     
  14. pdhenry

    pdhenry Safety Pin

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    [quote="jemenake]Maybe, pressing "clear" twice in a row when in RD could take you to a "purge all deleted?" screen.[/quote]Deleting a bunch of shows in a hurry is why they changed the GUI to put an 'X' at the left of the selection and then return cursor control to the user. Just highlight the first item in the list and then press "clear" once per item in the list. I can delete 4 or 5 shows per second.

    You already seem to know this but in normal operation there's no need to empty the RD folder.
     
  15. etz

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    That doesn't work so well in the Recently Deleted folder. After each press of the 'clear', it pops up a confirmation screen that requires a press of the select button....way on the other end of the remote.
     
  16. mick66

    mick66 Dirty Burger

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    Etz said "That doesn't work so well in the Recently Deleted folder." when he probably actually meant to say was that method doesn't work at all in the RDF. Each individual deletion needs to be confirmed.


    And there's no need to turn off suggestions which is on by default on new machines. The thing is that it's an option so that you can record them and I can stop them from recording. It's also possible to remove items from the RDF. Why do you suppose that is? Could it be because while some people will want the folder to conatain as much as possible just in case or as an FSI, other people will want to remove things themselves as they see fit?

    "Need" (in terms of normal operation) has nothing to do with "your way."
     
  17. omni555

    omni555 New Member

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    It WOULD be nice to have the option to do a mass-delete, but I have a slightly different approach to dealing with the RD folder. Since there is no way to tell just how full your TiVo hard drive is, the RD folder can HELP with that!!! Just wait until your box is full and programs start disappearing from the RD folder. The amount of recorded time in the RD folder represents the amount of "free" space you have on your TiVo to record NEW programs that you want!!!

    For instance, let's say that you have 25 episodes of 1-hour programs in your RD folder and you notice that some of them begin to disappear. This means that you have 25 hours of recording time free on your hard drive! If 10 of these RD folder programs disappear, you can NOW record only 15 hours of new programming!

    The TOTAL of all your recorded programs AND the RD folders programs SHOULD add up to the total capacity of your TiVo - unless you permanently delete some programs from the RD folder. Therefore, every program you delete normally goes into the RD folder and shows you that you now have that extra amount of time for new recordings.

    Personally, I think that this is a great feature - at least until TiVo gives us a feature that allows us to view the amount of space used/available on the hard drive! :cool:
     
  18. mellow_sparky

    mellow_sparky New Member

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    Am I understanding correctly that the RD folder doesn't begin to empty itself until the space is actually needed for other programs?

    It seems a little weird. If I record a program and tell Tivo to "keep until space is needed", Tivo will delete (or threaten to delete) that recording before it clears the RD folder. Am I understanding this correctly. Seems like the priority should be the RD folder first.
     
  19. pdhenry

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    In my experience the RD folder is emptied before the "keep until space needed" programs. That is, I've never lost a "Keep until space needed" program when there were still programs in the RD folder.

    One exception - shows in excess of the "keep at most" limit bypass the RD folder when they're removed from the Now Playing list. If I have a show at KAM=1, the old show disappears without a trace when the new one starts recording.

    Point taken on the multiple steps required to delete programs in the RD. I missed that one. I use RD as a free space indicator so I don't delete shows from there as a rule. You can quickly empty the Recommended sows folder with a series of "clear" presses, though.
     
  20. MikeTerryP

    MikeTerryP New Member

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    I simply can't believe the amount of space taken up by this ridiculous "problem." Someone wants to transfer information from one harddrive to another and not be inconvenienced by the long wait so he wants Tivo to spend money to work on this "issue." That would be the only reason for a batch delete, and that's a pretty weak one. Anyone who says that they want to keep the drive "clean", is far too anal to ever be satisfied with anything Tivo does.
    Let's use our complaining time to work on a far better issue, the 7.3.1 fiasco. What a mess.
     

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