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Walking Dead 11/17 "Live Bait"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by betts4, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. Nov 19, 2013 #81 of 114
    zalusky

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    It's been done! :)
     
  2. Nov 19, 2013 #82 of 114
    Bierboy

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    Oh for crying out loud...you actually liked the girl trying to fist bump the governor? She was horrible throughout the entire episode and the writing was abysmal. The entire scene in that apt. building sucked from the beginning when he spotted one of the women standing in the window. Who would stand in a wide open window in this type of world? Especially if you have no idea who this guy is coming into town? Ridiculous...
     
  3. Nov 19, 2013 #83 of 114
    zalusky

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    There are plenty of oblivious people in our world. I can imagine some of them would be still around in that world. Look at the idiotic moves our band of warriors keep making.

    I would be more surprised to find somebody who had their head on straight.
     
  4. Nov 19, 2013 #84 of 114
    cherry ghost

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    That was the girl in the window. And yes, I liked the fist bumping woman.
     
  5. Nov 19, 2013 #85 of 114
    madscientist

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    The writing was fine and the acting was also fine. Definitely the fist-bump was awkward. That was intentional, IMO. These people have been completely on their own for about a year or so (we don't know how long the Governor was wandering around). Although they've seen some bad things, they've been largely sheltered from what's going on. They obviously have not had any interactions with roving gangs, or cannibals, or anything like that. From what we can tell most people left that building early in the disaster, and aside from walkers in the town (who can't or haven't wanted to get up the stairs) they've been pretty much left alone. They haven't had to go out scavenging for food. They don't know what's really happening, or how dangerous the living can be as well as the dead.

    As far as the window, that was the little girl standing there, not one of the women. That's why the Governor went in there, because she reminded him of Penny. He may have even thought that was Penny. The idea that you can keep a child that age from looking out the window after an entire year of living cooped up like that is what's ridiculous. The way the Governor was shambling along at that point they probably thought HE was a walker... why shouldn't she look out the window at him?
     
  6. Nov 20, 2013 #86 of 114
    BluesFools

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    Did you notice that the girl in the window disappeared as he walked in front of the camera? He only obscured it for less than a second, but the window went from open with the girl in it to closed with no-one there. No way an actress could have moved so fast, so this was deliberately edited that way. In a more subtle show that would indicate that the girl was imaginary, which would have to lead to the sisters only existing in his mind too.

    If it turns out that he's imagining a girl who substitutes for Penny, and a woman who looks like Maggie, then kudos to the showrunner for carrying that off for the whole episode. More likely it'll never be referenced again though.
     
  7. Nov 20, 2013 #87 of 114
    betts4

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    :up: Definitely these two points.

    Can he let his buddy with the gun know that he doesn't want to be 'Governor' anymore and to play it cool about that, or does he start to take control again - and use that as a way of protecting the girl and the other women. The thing to remember with the Governor is that he always did have a charming side to him. Even as he was taking people out for torture on one side of town he was organizing campfire s'more rallies on the other side. He wore two faces well until the very end.

    Best line of the thread. :)
     
  8. Nov 20, 2013 #88 of 114
    Hank

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    No possible way the writers are that good. And I would call the window edit an editing/continuity error long before I would call it intentional.
     
  9. Nov 20, 2013 #89 of 114
    betts4

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    I totally saw that as intentional. A simple act that played with his emotions and memories. It let him know that there were live people in the town.

    When I first saw him walking thru the town in that slow, slumped, sluggish style I thought he was trying to get by as a Walker so he wouldn't get attacked. He did look that part from far away. For that matter how did he get by without attracting the attention of the Walkers? I remember way back Glen and Rick did it by smearing dead remains on themselves.
     
  10. Nov 20, 2013 #90 of 114
    pmyers

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    I can tell that this was just a so/so episode just based on the traction of this thread. Usually we'd have 3+ pages by now and arguing about something ;)
     
  11. Nov 20, 2013 #91 of 114
    danterner

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    Bierboy

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    I strongly disagree...



    :D
     
  13. Nov 20, 2013 #93 of 114
    Rob Helmerichs

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    You're both utterly wrong!
     
  14. Nov 20, 2013 #94 of 114
    heySkippy

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    I thought it was one of the best of the season so far. No prison, no sick people, win!
     
  15. Nov 20, 2013 #95 of 114
    Bierboy

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    Damn you, Rob....;)

    Back on topic, even critic Alan Sepinwall didn't particularly like this ep -- "...And my overall feelings about "Live Bait" will depend on where the Governor goes from here. If he's just going to be back to figurative mustache-twirling in an episode or two, then this was largely a waste of time. If there's an attempt to turn him into an antagonist who isn't just a pure villain, then this was at least a start, even if it wasn't an especially gripping one."
     
  16. Nov 20, 2013 #96 of 114
    getreal

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    Seeing the dead "walker" stuck in the bathtub, I thought it would be funny to stumble across a dead "walker" hanging from a noose where he had died during autoerotic asphyxiation and then "turned", but couldn't get free of the noose. Or someone who died while on the toilet, and their pants are around their ankles while they shuffle along as a walker LOL!
     
  17. Nov 20, 2013 #97 of 114
    DevdogAZ

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    Speaking of the walker in the bathtub, it appeared that he had committed suicide in there by eating a gun. So if he shot himself through the head, wouldn't that be enough to keep him from turning?
     
  18. Nov 20, 2013 #98 of 114
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Sounds like you just want to see walker weiners :eek:
     
  19. Nov 20, 2013 #99 of 114
    heySkippy

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    I'm waiting for a toothless walker that's lost his dentures. If they let me write an episode, I'd have him grabbing some unsuspecting arm and trying his best to gnaw while a slow realization dawns on the horrified victim...
     
  20. pmyers

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    Yeah...I wasn't sure about that. I couldn't tell if that was a gun shot wound or if something (a rat) had been chewing on him. Certainly if it was a gsw that killed him, then he shouldn't have turned.
     

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