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Veronica Mars Movie - SPOILERS INSIDE

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by dswallow, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. Mar 17, 2014 #81 of 147

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002
    Saw it today at a noon matinee with my wife (me with my Kickstarter backer shirt on, her with a Team Logan shirt that I got her on CafePress). Loved it. Yes, it was basically a XL size, PG-13 rated ep of the show, but I don't care. I just finished re-watching all 64 eps of the show, and it fits in there pretty seamlessly, which is pretty impressive considering 7 years have passed since all of those characters were together.

    I'm not the expert, but my wife is, and she thought the V-Logan chemistry was still there, in spades. Yes, Logan is bit less of a mooning smolderer now, but that's because he's matured now.

    Loved the Keith-V scenes, and I enjoyed the Deputy Leo scene too.

    Here's hoping that Netflix/Amazon decide to pick up a S4, or that WB is happy enough to look at a 2nd movie.
  2. Mar 17, 2014 #82 of 147

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002
    If I'm not mistaken, they addressed that by Veronica mentioning that the boat accident had happened right after she left Neptune and transferred to Stanford.
  3. Mar 17, 2014 #83 of 147

    whitson77 Active Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    It was decent not great. C

    Sad that no one grew up in 10 years and settled down except for Weevil. They are all about to be 30 and no one got married and had a kid except for one person in their circle. I found that kind of hard to believe. Hardly any of these characters even changed at all. Maybe Wallace was a little more mature, but he could not find a girl? Maybe Mac, they really did not flesh out her two best friends much at all.

    I hate saying this but it missed the mark. The dialog was there in parts. Loved her dad still. Wanted more of Wallace and Veronica teaming up. The James Franco cameo was funny and Dax.

    But overall, the plot was really really thin for me and a huge stretch for most of the movie. Sheriff Dan Lamb now? Dick has not changed at all in 10 years. At what point does he become pathetic more than comic relief. Logan in the Navy, where did that come from?? It was just not believable to me. The 10 year blackmail thing. The most played out cliche of which guy will the girl choose. Piz or Logan. Seriously, if I was a woman I would start getting offended by the good guy vs. the bad boy storyline with almost every female character these days. Can someone not write that with the female lead? And the bad-ish (but still good guy) wins 95% of the time. It beats me down to no end these days.

    It juggled too many storylines and none of them were particularly well written or original. There were sparks of great dialog between Veronica and Keith. Some funny moments. But it never came close to greatness for me. Which is a shame, I expected more than I got.
  4. Mar 17, 2014 #84 of 147

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA
    I think that was on purpose. They wanted to have a place to go in the future so they set up a bunch of unresolved plot points.
  5. Mar 18, 2014 #85 of 147

    cmontyburns Excellent.

    Nov 14, 2001
    Houston, TX
    Oddly, it was what it was because of what you expected. "You" the typical VM viewer, that is. Rob T. has said he made this "give the fans what they want" version of the movie, with the various character beats and the LoVe shipper stuff, because the fans paid for the film. He was right to do so, even if it means it was a little overstuffed. For this movie, at least, the mystery itself was a MacGuffin; what mattered was getting the characters back.

    (As for the mystery, we need to avoid thinking it should have been as compelling as something like Lilly's murder. The big arcs from the show had literally 10 times as much screen time to play out. With all the character stuff this movie worked in, the main mystery here got scarcely more time than one of the mysteries of the week from the regular show. I thought it was reasonably-well handled under the circumstances.)
  6. Mar 18, 2014 #86 of 147

    cmontyburns Excellent.

    Nov 14, 2001
    Houston, TX
    Wanted to come back to this. From your other comments, I sort of wonder whether if the film had spent time on those details, you would have criticized it for doing so at the expense of the mystery.

    Anyway, I know what you mean, but I thought this was fine. Thematically, the movie was more about whether you can escape your past anyway, than about looking forward. The characters with the best sense of self, like Keith and certainly Dick and even Wallace, are comfortable being exactly who they are and so are least likely to have changed. The entire movie was about Veronica trying to deny who she is and where she came from, only to get good with it by the end. Logan was so trying to escape his old self that he joined the service, but he still ended up being accused of murder again. His struggle goes on. Mac has gone legit in recent years, but by the end seems comfortable and happy returning to her old hacker self.
  7. Mar 18, 2014 #87 of 147

    Wil Senile Member

    Sep 26, 2002
    I didn't know that. Just put down my money and hoped for something good to watch and never followed it from there.

    Would have been pleased with just another episode. Instead I got this sentimental mess (admittedly enjoyable). But less enjoyable now that I know he threw the game on purpose.
  8. Mar 18, 2014 #88 of 147

    Lori Social Defective TCF Club

    Feb 20, 2000
    Bowie, MD USA
    I think that people with kids tend to gravitate toward other people with kids, and then they think that everyone has kids. :)

    Of my "circle" in college/grad school, exactly three have kids. Eleven don't. Among my current friends, the ratio is about the same: about 20% have kids, 80% don't.

    So I don't think that it's completely unrealistic that Veronica and her friends are the kinds of people that just don't have kids. Like my friends and I are. :)

    Also, they want to write more movies/books/TV episodes, and they don't want this turning into a noir version of 'Full House'. A bunch of kids would drastically change the tone.
  9. Mar 18, 2014 #89 of 147

    Lori Social Defective TCF Club

    Feb 20, 2000
    Bowie, MD USA
    I'd say for many of us, he gave us the movie we hoped for. It wasn't perfect, but if there is never another frame shot, I'm OK with how it ended. That wasn't the case at the end of the series, which left me so verklempt that I couldn't even watch the finale until a couple weeks ago.

    (I'm a spoiler junkie. I knew how it was going to end, and knowing how it was going to end, I just couldn't watch. I just pretended that it ended after "Show Me the Monkey." :))
  10. Mar 18, 2014 #90 of 147

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

    Aug 6, 2003
    Madison, WI
    I did not think of it that way. :) If this is what was required for more VM, then I guess that makes me happy. If this is the last we see of it, then it will have been a waste.
  11. Mar 18, 2014 #91 of 147

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

    Jul 24, 2001
    Milwaukee, WI
    At the very least, it will be continued in book form. The first book is already written, and more are likely on the way.
  12. Mar 18, 2014 #92 of 147

    StacieH betativowho??

    Jan 2, 2009
    Between San...
    I pre ordered the audio book using one of my audible credits.
  13. Mar 19, 2014 #93 of 147

    Drewster Shooting blanks

    Oct 26, 2000
    Costa Mesa, CA

    Bud, Bud Light, Old Grandad (thought that may have been just a comedic line), and of course Samsung.

  14. Mar 19, 2014 #94 of 147

    ayrton911 F1 TiVo

    Sep 4, 2000
    Only the Samsung jumped at me until you guys mentioned the drinks. The drink names seem more realistic. I don't see all electronics with Samsung logo all day long, but I hear people say brand drink names.

    Funny, I didn't even think about re-watching series before the movie, and I'm glad I didn't. I think it made it feel fresh. I watched the movie a couple times now and will do it again when the Blu-ray comes out, I hope it has commentary, but it doesn't seem to list it yet.

    However, watching the movie, got me wanting the series, and 10 years since S1, it feels fresh again. Sure you go "oh yeah," but it's fresh, which is nice. I didn't even remember Duncan.

    Also, I had never seen Season 1 in HD, and Amazon Prime has it free right now, once you finally load it up on PS3, the Prime stream comes through at some kind of 1080p, so it does look pretty nice for a 10 year old show, doesn't feel 10 years old besides the young looking actors.

    Movie was a terrific idea.
  15. Mar 19, 2014 #95 of 147

    Robin Nasty Woman

    Dec 6, 2001
    "Pepsi" is something I only hear in the context of:

    "I'll have a coke. "

    "We only have Pepsi."

    "ok, fine. Pepsi. "
  16. Mar 19, 2014 #96 of 147

    Lori Social Defective TCF Club

    Feb 20, 2000
    Bowie, MD USA


    For me, it's:

    "Can I get a diet coke?"
    "Diet Pepsi okay?"
    "How about an iced tea?"

  17. Mar 19, 2014 #97 of 147

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    This is the correct alternate response. The correct primary response is to get up and leave and go somewhere else to eat. ;)
  18. Mar 19, 2014 #98 of 147

    Maui Major Lee Oblivious

    Apr 22, 2000
    Decatur, IL
    For me it usually goes

    "Can I get a Diet Pepsi"
    "We only have coke products"
    "Okay, i'll take a regular coke"

    I like Diet Pepsi but do not like Diet Coke. Non-diet versions I am fine with either.

    I did notice the Diet Pepsi when she ordered the drink. I never paid attention to the Samsung (Maybe because I have more than my share of Samsung products).
  19. Mar 19, 2014 #99 of 147

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    None of it really stood out as "product placement" to me, at least during the time I was watching it for the first time -- till I started reading the thread here :). Samsung devices are all over the place, so it was not something I paid attention to. And I remember cringing a bit while thinking "yuck" when she asked for a Pepsi, but that's what I do when people ask for Pepsi. So that was normal, too. Now I can accept someone asking for a Pepsi, Coke, Diet Pepsi, or Diet Coke, even if I dislike one or the other, but what's unnatural would be to hear her ask for a "Cola". I'd have been fine even to hear her ask for a Pepsi (or Coke), being told they only have Coke (or Pepsi) and then her choosing something completely different. Though I probably would've passed out from excitement over movie dialog being natural about ordering a brand instead of unnatural or forced or silly.
  20. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Nashua, NH
    There were multiple scenes where a Pepsi can was prominently visible.

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