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Using the 3.0 (Un)support for broadband

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by gleffler, Jun 1, 2002.

  1. Jun 10, 2002 #81 of 375
    AlanShutko

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    IT WORKS! Thanks for all the informative posts, folks! With this thread as a guide, I got PPP over serial working in about 10 minutes, not counting the Radio Shack run for connectors. I didn't even have to do anything about my transparent squid proxy... I must not be proxying the 192.168.10 range.

    WHEEE!
     
  2. Jun 10, 2002 #82 of 375
    tpunder

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    What if I did? :) Stupid of me not to check here before running it, I know.. :(
     
  3. Jun 10, 2002 #83 of 375
    RevRick

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    UPDATE or ANOMALY? You decide . . . I was able to get my Tivo to connect through both Windows Me and my wireless USB connection. Now, all my calls have gone through, and I haven't even had to reboot the Tivo. I have been unplugging the CAT5 cable, since I haven't drilled the holes in the floor yet. Yet, my Tivo still gets and IP from the computer. This is quite different than what I was experiencing last week. However, one must understand that operator error is the main cause of most problems (at least in this house). Now, was it that I installed ICS software, but later uninstalled it? I don't know. But Windows Me is working.

    "What was the problem?" you may be asking. I had jarred the TivoNet card off its connection when reinstalling the little "foot" on the bottom of the Tivo. Be sure to read that section of the 9thTee web page. (I didn't skip the step, but didn't think I would knock it off it's connection by gently putting it halfway back on.)

    Bottom line? It's possible to use a wireless connection other than the bridge that has yet to be shipped by Linksys. However, if you haven't bought your wireless adapter I would wait for the bridge. I keep waiting for my setup to quit.

    Good luck!
     
  4. Jun 10, 2002 #84 of 375
    Cypher

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    Ahhh...
    I'm kinda frustrated... hope someone can help!

    I had my turbonet adapter working perfectly under 2.5.x (Phillips SA) w/ daily calls going out over the internet, tivoweb, etc.

    Well, i got my 3.0 update and things stopped working. No big deal, right, just put ,#401 in the dialing prefix and at least I'll get daily calls... nope.

    I get the "Failed. Service Unavailable" message that a lot of other folks have been getting. Now, I know my router is setup properly b/c it was working with 2.5.x, right? And I can ping my tivo (i had assigned it IP address 192.168.0.100 before my upgrade, but now with DHCP it's 192.168.0.4). I entered backdoor codes, checked the logs, and it looks like it's getting out to the servers ok, but failing like this (from /var/log/tclient):
    connection to host 204.176.49.2 port err 0x0
    read 1027 bytes of upload data for HServerRqst
    Required Parameter ERR_MSG not present
    VERSION not present
    CODE not present...

    etc.

    Now, when I originally setup my turbonet under 2.5, I had a content length 0 problem that i had to fix (thanks to some folks out on these forums). Could that same bug be popping up again?

    Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?

    Thanks for any help!
    Jeff
     
  5. Jun 10, 2002 #85 of 375
    Riggs

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    I'll leave the text up here just in case you're interested in what I had to say, but I figured out my problem - bad ethernet cable. I switched to a diferent cable and the entire thing went through without a snag.

    Looks like I need to recrimp my old cable. I just wish I found this out about 4 hours ago...

    ********************************************************
    I'm having some installation issues, and I'm hoping that one or many of you might be able to help me out!

    My Series 2 just updated to 3.0 and I bought a Linksys 4-port router so I could do updates via the Internet. I did all of the wire connections properly, I *think* I set up the router properly (my computer connection is working, if that says anything), but the TiVo was always failing on the connection part of the test call.

    I opened up the log file and found out that it's sending a DHCP request to 255.255.255.255 but not receiving an IP, at which point it says that the network connection is down. It turns out that the Linksys router is trying to assign an IP address to the TiVo, but it only lists the TiVo for a few moments after restarting the TiVo.

    Since my apartment building has in-house broadband wiring, my connection is somewhat unique in that I just plug my router into the wall and not into a modem. I also am assigned a range of static IP addresses I can use.

    Does anyone has the faintest idea what could be wrong? Could I have set up the router incorrectly? Is the TiVo trying to look at the wrong address for it's IP assignment (since the subnet mask is *.0 and not *.255)? Is the problem due to my static IP?

    Thanks in advance for all of your help!
     
  6. Jun 11, 2002 #86 of 375
    anddmx

    anddmx TiVo Tinkerer

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    THANK-YOU TiVo!! ;)

    Thanks for the "Unofficial" built-in network support! Had it up in 60 seconds on my linksys cable-shared network.

    Woo Hoo! :D :D

    anddmx

    PS - Now if TiVo could look down and say... Okay, whoever has a dialing prefix of ,#401, send them a month of programming data, I would be VERY happy. HINT HINT :cool:
     
  7. Jun 11, 2002 #87 of 375
    QAI

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    I have gone to the proxy check website. No I am not behind a proxy server and yes, I cannot get ppp over serial to work. I am connecting to my Linux server and using masquerade firewall going out. Port 123 has been enabled but I don't think it is getting stuck there. TCPDUMP reveals that a connection attempt is being made across port 80 to 204.176.49.2 There doesn't seem to be a response back from that address. I am considering that the MTU/MRU needs to be adjusted. My understanding of the TCPDUMP line is very limited however I see a line that stated 1514(1452) I wonder if those are the numbers. I also wonder if going over pppoe is a problem. The MTU/MRU is set to 1492 in this case.

    Suggestions?
     
  8. Jun 11, 2002 #88 of 375
    QAI

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    Well it seems that by adding a mtu 1492 mru 1492 to the linux pppd command line worked. I was able to make a test call. I am now testing guide data d/l. The command line for linux should read: /usr/sbin/pppd ttyS0 115200 noauth debug local nocrtscts mtu 1492 mru 1492 192.168.10.1:192.168.10.2. This is for a DSL connection.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2002 #89 of 375
    jab1981

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    I'd like to argue... but I have no clue about anything to do with this. :p

    If only I knew setting up a Tivo to my network would involve so many tweaks and what not. My XBox was simply plug and play...

    Guess I'm back to waiting for the next update. I'd like to figure out what's going on, but I don't have the time to learn how to hack another piece of tech. It's not worth going through to have network support I guess. It's a shame they didn't release a more functional version.

    *Edit - I've gotten a slew of messages, but it seems the errors are in var/log/messages

    "Couldn't restrict write permissions to /dev/cua1 R(ead) only file system."
    "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6"
    "DHclient send_packet: Network is down"


    but it does say local IP address 63.15.82.20
    remote IP address 206.115.151.154
    and most promising pppd[1419]:Sent 5788 bytes, recieved 2518 bytes.

    Not sure at all how to take it. Something is definately going on just not sure what. Switching IP's in the next week or so, perhaps I'll investigate it more on my next day off after the switch.
     
  10. Jun 11, 2002 #90 of 375
    Graeber

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    Hello --

    I am running Redhat Linux and previously had PPP via serial working perfectly. Now I have 3.0 and I cant get it to work. I used to log into linux and run a command "pppd with lots of parameters" that would initialize my connection. Then I could call and everything was fine. Now that doesnt work.

    I know my linux box is setup to work with PPP and tivo -- I just dont know how to adjust to this new 3.0 way of doing things. ALSO, I dont care if i get an always on connection or not -- I JUST WANT GUIDE DATA :)

    Anyone know how to take a 2.5.1 setup and make it work for 3.0?

    thanks,
    Graeber
     
  11. Jun 11, 2002 #91 of 375
    Otto

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    Graeber: Shouldn't be any more complex than adding ",#2xx" to the dialing prefix, where xx is the first two characters of the speed of the connection (like ,#211 for 115,200). Then, when it makes the call, it'll try to connect ppp over serial to the linux box. If you had it setup already, then you're good to go.
     
  12. Jun 11, 2002 #92 of 375
    stormsweeper

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    3.0 doesn't keep a permanent ppp connection over the serial line. You should be able to start pppd on the linux box and it will wait until the Tivo side accepts. A more elegant solution is to use mgetty, which should already be installed on your linux box. You need to look up the AutoPPP option.
     
  13. Jun 11, 2002 #93 of 375
    Graeber

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    Hmm, I have tried this and no luck :( It is pretty odd because a few times I have gotten the test call to work but with no consistency. Never has the Daily Call worked! Darn 3.0! So basically a few times I have run my pppd command and the test call has worked but only make 3 of the 12 times I have tried. Any ideas? I was very excited because my 1st test call worked and then the Daily failed (service unavailable). I am using the correct value of 115200 as well.

    (Also, I tried to set up my tivo using the XP setup that Otto described and this also doesnt work! I am able to see the ~plus garbage if I look at the input from HyperTerminal (yes, I also eventually see the "User Request" text) but I never get any indication that an incoming connection is coming. It is very odd.) My setup is a cable modem->Linksys router to my PC. My tivo is connected to this PC correctly. I am a little confused in this area because I am not sure if I need WinRoute or not. I think I do -- I just dont know what I need to do with it :)

    Anyone, if anyone can help me with either XP or Linux I would be very happy.

    -Graeber
     
  14. Jun 11, 2002 #94 of 375
    Otto

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    Graeber: My setup was like yours when I made that XP page.

    Cable Modem -> Linksys Router -> PC -> Serial to Tivo

    No WinRoute needed. I just followed the instructions on that page exactly and it worked, first try.

    But if you have already gotten it to work on Linux before, do that. If you can get a test call to work only sometimes, then lower the speed of the connection. Without hardware flow control, it's a bit difficult to make it work consistently. I never did get a consistent connection at 115,200, but I got 57,600 to work okay 80% of the time. Just use ,#257 instead of ,#211 and set the computer side up appropriately. Failing that, try 38.4 (,#238) and so forth. If all else fails, give 9600 (,#296) a shot and see how it works.. This should nearly always work if your setup is correct.

    Well, okay, so there's no 28.8 bps. :p
     
  15. Jun 11, 2002 #95 of 375
    stormsweeper

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    I'll note (as I have a few times before) that the pppd equivalent in Win2k (RRAS) doesn't seem to set up routes correctly every time. And the route command doesn't like the 255.255.255.255 mask for some reason. With 3.0, I just force another call when this happens. With 2.5 I had to reboot the Tivo.
     
  16. Jun 11, 2002 #96 of 375
    Saturn

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    Otto: I've never seen a serial port that can be opened at 28800 bps.

    Valid port speeds for most serial ports: (assumed dial-prefix)
    300 (,#230)
    1200 (,#212)
    2400 (,#224)
    4800 (,#248)
    9600 (,#296)
    19200 (,#219)
    38400 (,#238)
    57600 (,#257)
    115200 (,#211)


    Disclaimer: I haven't tried ANY of these, as I use an always-on PPP connection, and use the same prefix you use for Ethernet (after modifying rc.arch)


    Edit: change baud to bps for the pedants of the group.
     
  17. Jun 11, 2002 #97 of 375
    Saturn

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    stormsweeper: You must have a strange 2k box, because I've never had problems with the routing on my 2k box. And my route command accepts a 255.255.255.255 mask too (I've used it for other purposes).
     
  18. Jun 11, 2002 #98 of 375
    evvo

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    I have a series 1 that's been working just fine with my TivoNet card ever since I put in the Transparent-Proxy fix.

    I just got upgraded to 3.0 and now all my calls fail. I'm assuming that it's due to RCN's transparent proxy. Is there a fix for this yet?
     
  19. Jun 11, 2002 #99 of 375
    stormsweeper

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    <pedant>Serial doesn't go above 9600 baud. </pedant>
     
  20. Saturn

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    i'm confused
     

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