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Using the 3.0 (Un)support for broadband

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by gleffler, Jun 1, 2002.

  1. Jun 6, 2002 #61 of 375
    baadpuppy

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    I kept seeing a lot of reports here of 3.0 not working right with turbonets, and worried about my SA upgrading to 3.0 when I wasn't here.

    So, a week or so ago, I put ,#401 in the dialing prefix and figured I'd be safe enough.

    Lo and behold, my SA upgraded to 3.0, and my DirecTiVo to 2.5.2 last night.

    So, I thought I'd test my turbonet in my SA, and it got a Failed message. I checked, and it had an IP, which was pingable.

    So I thought about this for a little bit, then I remembered the whole transparent proxy problem that I had to correct in the tcl code when I first got my turbonet installed. Thinking this might be the problem, I disabled transparent web caching on my router (smoothwall on a PC), and it fixed the problem.

    I know that tivo connecting over ethernet is an "unsupported" thing, but I really would have thought with all the publicity this transparent proxy problem has had on this forum that TiVo would have fixed it by now. I'm fortunate that my ISP doesn't do transparent proxy caching, and that I could easily disable it in my own router.

    So, for those of you the Failed message, perhaps this is your problem as well.

    *sigh* I would have to get the upgrades the day before leaving the state for 4 days! :(
     
  2. Jun 6, 2002 #62 of 375
    pin87a

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    Add another failed attempt to get the Siemens adapter to work.
    My Tivo loaded the drivers, but failed to do anything else.
    Maybe we should remove it from the list??

    I exchanged it for the Belkin adapter, and it worked perfectly.
     
  3. Jun 7, 2002 #63 of 375
    jab1981

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    What exactly should I look for.

    I have loads of tcphonhome[126] messages. And before that PromoRotation Could not find a valid promotion.

    That seems to be all in relation to my attempt (I deleted a channel just before attempting to connect and the channel deletion info is just above the screen of promo errors and the screen of tcphonhome errors.

    Any more ideas?
     
  4. Jun 7, 2002 #64 of 375
    Otto

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    Well, look for the kernel logs and so forth. Is the driver for the adapter loading? Do you get an IP from the DHCP server? And so on. I'm not going to go all out and explain the intracies of linux and TCP/IP networking here. :p

    In short, find the problem and remedy it. If you can't tell what the problem is, find someone who can look at your box and do so. But everything you need to find the problem is in those logfiles.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2002 #65 of 375
    droidicus

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    Well....... maybe not EVERYTHING ;-)

    I have looked in the log files, my TiVo series 2 is recognizing the USB adapter, it is getting an IP address. I can ping the box (as can a friend that is located outside the LAN with some port forwarding), but no luck on connecting on a test call. Always the same error everyone else is getting, "Failed to connect".

    I have opened UDP port 123, and have even tried DMZ forwarding. No luck.

    My ISP says that they do not block any ports, except for port 80 inbound (code red, that and they do not want servers). I think that they do have a transparent web proxy set up on their end though, baadpuppy mentioned that his personal transparent proxy messed things up, so maybe it my ISP's that is doing it.

    Anyway, don't be so sure that the logs have EVERYTHING in them that is needed to fix a problem, as some of us linux geeks are still having problems getting our TiVos connected. :D

    Droid
     
  6. Jun 7, 2002 #66 of 375
    Otto

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    Well... everything *he* needs then. You have your own special issues. You lucky dog! :D

    I dunno why web proxies would break it. Seems odd.
     
  7. Jun 7, 2002 #67 of 375
    droidicus

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    My mommy always said that I was special!!

    :p
     
  8. Jun 7, 2002 #68 of 375
    pin87a

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    Go here and do the proxy test on the bottom of the page. It will tell you if you are behind a proxy or not.
     
  9. Jun 8, 2002 #69 of 375
    Bort13

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    bought the Linksys USB100TX, and it's working great with 3.0-01-2-1F0. Thanks for the tips!
     
  10. Jun 8, 2002 #70 of 375
    phinlum

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    Hi, I just posted this over at the coffee shop but wanted to try here too. Any ideas??
    Ok I got 3.0 and am now trying to get the broadband connection working. I plugged in my turbonet card and hooked in a cable then ran it to one of the jacks that one of my computers is on. That jack is wired directly to a lynxssys BEFSR41 cable router, and from there to a time warner cable modem. My other computers all plug in to this router. I then changed the dialing prefix to ,#401, but didn't change any of the other numbers. Now when I try to connect the green light flashes on the turbonet card but the connection fails. Help Please.
     
  11. Jun 8, 2002 #71 of 375
    phinlum

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    Hmm, ok a couple of more things I've found. The green light on the turbo card blinks a slow steady green, no red light comes on that I can see. The upper light on the router does not come on, this is the one that shows there is a connection, so I guess something is wrong. Any ideas??
     
  12. Jun 8, 2002 #72 of 375
    voxelman

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    Motivated by the imminent loss of the 1-800 dial-up connection I was spurred to install the TurboNet card that has been sitting on the shelf for some months. The TurboNet install CD sets up the system with a fixed IP address. My TiVo has software version 2.5.1a-01-1-000. I have a Linksys router but I have DHCP turned off. I'm able to ping, telnet, and ftp to my TiVo. Do I still need to enable DHCP or has this been addressed in the latest TurboNet drivers?
     
  13. Jun 8, 2002 #73 of 375
    voxelman

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    After reading some more I forced a daily call and it worked the first time. Yay! I love the TiVo experience!
     
  14. Jun 8, 2002 #74 of 375
    droidicus

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    It looks like I AM behind a transparent proxy owned by my ISP. Can anyone who is still having trouble connecting (and people who can connect just fine) please go and see if you are behind a proxy here?

    If we can confirm this or rule it out that would help.

    Droid
     
  15. Jun 8, 2002 #75 of 375
    Otto

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    voxelman: When you get the 3.0 upgrade, using that install CD won't work right anymore. But the drivers are already built in to 3.0.

    So when that happens, you will need to enable DHCP. Fortunately, with a Linksys "router", you can set the DHCP start address and range (assuming you have the latest firmware upgrade anyway). So what you'll do then is easy: turn on DHCP, set the start address as the address you want the Tivo to get, and set the range to 1. Voila. You can leave the rest of the computers as static IP's if you like. The router will route them just the same. The whole trick is to not have any static addresses in the range of the addresses the DHCP expects to give out.

    I have a one computer using a static address, and everything else dynamic. The reason for that is that that computer has a webserver on it and sometimes I want to forward ports to it. Be kinda difficult if its internal IP changed from time to time.
     
  16. Jun 9, 2002 #76 of 375
    jbyrd

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    Me too. Exactly the same.
     
  17. Jun 9, 2002 #77 of 375
    shnozyee

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    apologies if this is already covered, but I am new here.

    will what you describe work through the serial port with a Mac (with keyspan usb/serial adapter) on a series 2 machine or better to go with the usb ethernet to ethernet port on Mac, or will a Mac not work at all for this purpose?

    once I get this hooked up, can I change titles in the now playing section?

    Thank you all,
    :confused:
     
  18. Jun 10, 2002 #78 of 375
    Laserfan

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    Thanks, Otto, for this clear description. I have a Linksys router and it seems this feature got added somewhere along the way of firmware upgrades, but their "Help" files haven't caught up with it.

    I'm sitting on a Tivonet card (not yet installed), awaiting my SA upgrade from 2.5.1 to 3.0; are you and everyone saying that once I'm upgraded I won't even need to execute Chris Worley's tivonetfloppy script??? If yes this will be very cool.
     
  19. Jun 10, 2002 #79 of 375
    hgelpke

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    Maybe I missed comething but after you have set up your direct connection in winxp or 2k what do you do next. I went through the guide and everything is set properly but I just don't know what to do next. I ran hyperterminal and got a bunch of garbage so I know the connection works. Do I need to run something else? Please help.
     
  20. Jun 10, 2002 #80 of 375
    Laserfan

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    Sorry, I should have looked first. The answer apparently is "no, you don't need nuthin' else" so now I am real anxious to upgrade to 3.0.
     

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