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Using the 3.0 (Un)support for broadband

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by gleffler, Jun 1, 2002.

  1. Jun 2, 2002 #21 of 375
    Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    I had to move my turbonet card to the other TiVo yesterday. I had put in the ,#401 in the Call Waiting. It took me 10 minutes to figure that out.
     
  2. Jun 2, 2002 #22 of 375
    Otto

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    BTW, does anyone want to host that short HowTO at http://users.arczip.com/otto/tivo3xp/ on their server? I'm going to cancel that account soon and thus lose that webspace. If anyone wants it, make a mirror. It's free game.
     
  3. Jun 2, 2002 #23 of 375
    leebo

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    Hi Otto -

    Sure, no problem.

    Here's a snapshot (in order) from the Tivo2 to the wall:

    Tivo2 OS: 3.0.S7-01-2-1F0
    Tivo2, Upper USB port
    Siemens USB 10/100 Ethernet Adaptor: SS1001
    Cat5 Cable
    LinkSys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router BEFSR41 (in DHCP Mode)
    Cat5 Cable
    3COM Home Cable Modem
    Coax to wall

    I took the steps descibed by Doug:

    Unplugged TiVo.
    Hooked up network connection
    Plugged in Tivo.
    Changed "Dialing Prefix" to read: ,#401

    The test yielded a connection error on step 3 of the test: Failed. Service unavailable.

    I'm just suspecting that the Siemens device is not supported or may be non-functional. Is there a list of supported devices?

    Best,

    Lee
     
  4. Jun 2, 2002 #24 of 375
    Spire

    Spire WAS PHONE

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    I just got PPP-over-serial working on my Windows XP machine for the very first time by following Otto's excellent guide. (Thanks, Otto!) I would just like to add that it took a little tweaking to get things working properly with my Linksys BEFSR41 router:

    First, I had to allow VPN connections. Otto's guide states that "it's not needed for this connection", but I couldn't establish a connection without enabling it.

    Second, I had to go into my router's setup and enable the "SPI" (Stateful Packet Inspection) option. For those who have the same router as me, this option is located on the Filters page in the Advanced section. I'm not quite sure why SPI needs to be enabled, but it does -- at least with my setup.

    I did some quick checking on Usenet, and some people are claiming that enabling SPI on the Linksys router disables port forwarding. If this is true, then I've got a problem, because I make extensive use of port forwarding. Can anyone shed any light on this?
     
  5. Jun 2, 2002 #25 of 375
    Otto

    Otto New Member

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    Spire: I did have it working thru my laptop and my Linksys router once, and I certainly never enabled SPI.

    Stateful packet inspection basically means that the router will check each and every incoming packet to see if it matches an existing connection. If it doesn't, the packet is dropped. This does, in effect, cancel any port-forwarding. If you are not forwarding any ports (including port triggering), enabling this feature will add more security to your router.

    So I don't see how it would make any difference to your Tivo's connection.
     
  6. Jun 2, 2002 #26 of 375
    Otto

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    leebo: Might want to check the Tivo's log files and see if it's recognizing the dongle on bootup. I'd bet that the Siemen's one won't work.
     
  7. Jun 2, 2002 #27 of 375
    n4zmz

    n4zmz TiVoholic

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    Otto,

    Just wget-ed all of the files. They are showing up as: http://www.lan.com/otto/tivo3xp/

    Let me know if there is anything else you might need.

    -Dennis
     
  8. Jun 3, 2002 #28 of 375
    leebo

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    Thanks, Otto.

    Here's what I found.

    /var/log/kernal/

    The device is recognized as the Speedstream USB 10/100 Ethernet, but is not claimed by any active driver. The pegasus driver is loaded but reports that the link is NOT established - check cable. [I know the cable is good - it works with my laptop just fine].

    This is followed by a message about going into Rx mode and several other messages about not starting tests or other executables.

    So - it seems to recognize the Siemens device, but something is causing an error that is preventing it from establishing the link. For grins I tried the device in my laptop (W2K) and could not get the device to start properly.

    I'll take the Siemens device back to CompUSA and exchange it for something different. Other than the 3COM device, are there any other models that are known to function correctly?

    Best,

    Lee
     
  9. Jun 3, 2002 #29 of 375
    dah605

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    I couldn't get my Siemens adapter to work either. I bought a 3COM adapter from TigerDirect for about $4.99 plus shipping (about $13 total).
     
  10. Jun 3, 2002 #30 of 375
    jab1981

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    Well I'm still trying off and on, I've gotten the , in there (pause) but still no dice. Should I try to empty out my current local number? Somethings got to be going well as the light is on for the connection on both the USB adapter and the LinkSys router. I'll try unplugging the Tivo to see if it has any effect...

    Running with
    Tivo Series 2 Version 3.something something

    PC 2.4 Ghz
    Windows XP
    Intel Pro 10/100 network card

    LinkSys 5 port router

    :(
     
  11. Jun 3, 2002 #31 of 375
    jab1981

    jab1981 Guest

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    After unplugging everything, and starting again... still nothing. "Failed Service Unavailable." I see why the release didn't fully "support" network access. :mad: Time to wait for the next update I suppose. Hopefully then I'll see my dreams of removing that daft cord come to completetion.

    I still love my Tivo, and having the tick mark jump back is a god send.
     
  12. Jun 3, 2002 #32 of 375
    Otto

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    You did reboot with the USB adapter attached before trying ,#401, right? You can't hot plug the USB adapter into the Tivo.

    Short of that, I'd check the logfiles on the Tivo and see what they say.
     
  13. Jun 3, 2002 #33 of 375
    digital-stew

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    Does anyone know which USB Wireless Ethernet Adapters are supported if any?

    It would be great if someone could post a list that are supposed to work.
     
  14. Jun 3, 2002 #34 of 375
    hutchca

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    Embeem posted a list in this thread.
     
  15. Jun 3, 2002 #35 of 375
    leebo

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    FWIW - The Siemens adaptor is listed as a supported device. I think perhaps mine was defective. I exchanged the Siemens USB-Ethernet device for an equivalent LinkSys model (also supported) and it worked perfectly.

    Thanks for the help!
     
  16. Jun 3, 2002 #36 of 375
    droidicus

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    I am having the exact problem right now with my TiVo. I have one of the USB adapters what is on the "working" list, and a DHCP server behind a NAT/router (whatever you want to call it is fine with me). I also enabled back doors and looked in the logs, in /var/kernel it states that it found the adapter (and recognized it as the correct one) and that the pegasus driver was bound to that USB device. Finally I found that it did correctly get a IP address via DHCP. I am also able to ping the IP from my desktop computer, the average pink time is kind of long (on the order of 3ms.), but it is a TiVo, and not a top-of-the-line computer.

    One last thing is that when I enter ,#401 (pause-enter-4-0-1) and do a test call the 'Tx/Rx' light on the USB adapter blinks several times (the 'Link' light is on as well), so it is trying to use the ethernet, it just cannot. And yes, I did check the Cat5 running to the TiVo as well, the run to the entrainment center works on my computer, and the run to my computer does NOT work with the TiVo (as in the same error occurs).

    The only thing I can think of is maybe I need to modify my firewall settings. It should let almost anything out, but I do not know if TiVo needs incoming ports open/forwarded to it. So if anyone can tell me what port it uses I can try that.
     
  17. Jun 3, 2002 #37 of 375
    Ruskin

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    I am having the same exact problem. I am using the 3COM USB Ethernet adapter from Tiger Direct with a Linksys 5 port switch. Running Windows XP Professional. I have DHCP service running and my internet connection is cable. Internet connection sharing is working and I have link lights on the switch for the Tivo unit so it is connecting.

    I will say this, I cannot get other computers in the house to see the internet since I switched to XP. I have done installs from scratch and the best i've gotten is an extremly slow connection in the other room, but at the same time all the computer can see each other and transfer files between them at high speed. This main computer hooked to the switch can access the internet at top speed. Anyone have any tips?
     
  18. Jun 3, 2002 #38 of 375
    jimborst

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    I really wish someone had told me it was this easy (9th tee Mark said it was pretty much plug and play). I had not had a router before so I got the Linksys Cable/DSL router and after the PC told the router the logon, TiVo succesfully called on the internet-no problem!
     
  19. Jun 4, 2002 #39 of 375
    MighTiVo

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    Mine do, I have two on my Lan, one ISDN and one DSL. Although each only has one LAN port and one WAN port thus limiting it ability to make many routing decisions, I do have it set up so that if a packet goes to one that needs to go to the other it forwards and issues a redirect. The ISDN router actually has mutliple virtual WAN ports even though there is one physical and it can dynamically make calls on each B chanel to set up a link that coincides with the network it needs to route to. Most of these devices can listen and broadcast RIP and do many other real routing functions. Again the real limitation is the number of ports that limit the ability/need to do much more.

    As far as Enterprise routers, true most of these do not provide DHCP servers by they do almost always provide a DHCP forwarder to push those requests to an Enterprise DHCP server. I can not think of any current router code that doesn't suport NAT though as this is often necessary on large routers communicate between private networks. The little boxes usually only do N to 1 while the big boys can do N to 1, M-to-N (M>N), and N to N.
     
  20. Jun 4, 2002 #40 of 375
    Otto

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    Well, without knowing more about your firewall device, nobody can help you. The Tivo's communications are all HTTP, port 80. Nothing special about them, really. Works fine with my Linksys Cable/DSL Router and all the default settings.
     

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