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Using the 3.0 (Un)support for broadband

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by gleffler, Jun 1, 2002.

  1. Nov 1, 2002 #241 of 375
    seven

    seven New Member

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    Thanks, Amazon has the powerline adapters for $80 so that would be $160 for 2 + I'd still need a router (I think).

    They have the wireless cable router for $99 and the WUSB11 adapter for $50 (after $10 rebate which ends tomorrow) so it seems this way will be a little cheaper.

    I'm just hoping someone can tell me that it's going to work (or not) before spending $150 on it.

    7
     
  2. Nov 4, 2002 #242 of 375
    captaintemerity

    captaintemerity New Member

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    A wireless router should be pretty cheap. About $100-$130 at your local store (check the weekly ads from Best Buy and whatnot). I got the 3Com USB adapter for the Tivo2 on the 9thTee site for about $20 with shipping, so you can't go wrong there. The bridge was another $100 though, and I could only find it online.

    I'd say if you're already looking to do a wireless network for other reasons, like multiple computers, game systems or whatever, then go for it. If not, well, then I can see that it's a lot of money to spend and you may just want to stick with the phone.
     
  3. Nov 4, 2002 #243 of 375
    captaintemerity

    captaintemerity New Member

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    A wireless router should be pretty cheap. About $100-$130 at your local store (check the weekly ads from Best Buy and whatnot). I got the 3Com USB adapter for the Tivo2 on the 9thTee site for about $20 with shipping, so you can't go wrong there. The bridge was another $100 though, and I could only find it online.

    I'd say if you're already looking to do a wireless network for other reasons, like multiple computers, game systems or whatever, then go for it. If not, well, then I can see that it's a lot of money to spend and you may just want to stick with the phone.
     
  4. Nov 4, 2002 #244 of 375
    seven

    seven New Member

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    Well, I don't have a phone now, so I figured even though it costs a little to get set up I'll save about $30/mo by not getting one. And, I have a laptop and would like to be able to use it in different rooms, so I kind of wanted a wireless network anyway. I ordered the Linksys wireless router for $99 and WUSB11 adapter for $59 (-$10 rebate) from Amazon. Minus a $30 GC it was about $125 which I didn't think was too bad. Of course, I still need to get a USB ethernet adapter for the Tivo, but that shouldn't be too much.

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  5. Nov 5, 2002 #245 of 375
    pukka

    pukka Still Loving it

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    will the network work in the uk with the same number??

    many Thanks

    Paul
     
  6. Nov 5, 2002 #246 of 375
    mg058

    mg058 New Member

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    I am trying to get ppp over serial working (modem died). My environment is Philips Series 1 TiVo -> TiVo Serial cable -> Null Modem Cable -> laptop (win2k) -> Wireless LynkSys Router

    The "Connecting" phase reports (Failed. Service not answering.) on each attempt. Here's my modem log in case someone can spot something here. If this looks normal, can anyone point me to other diagnostic information that I should look at?

    Thanks...

    11-05-2002 22:21:35.469 - 115200,8,N,1, ctsfl=1, rtsctl=2
    11-05-2002 22:21:35.469 - Initializing modem.
    11-05-2002 22:21:35.479 - Waiting for a call.
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: ~
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Interpreted response: Ring
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINE_NEWCALL
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINECALLSTATE_OFFERING
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINEDEVSTATE_RINGING(0x1)
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: <ff>}#<c0>!}!
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: !} }4}"
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: &} } }
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: }%}&<ff><ff>
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: <88>
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Recv: <c5>}'}"}(
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.376 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.386 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.386 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.386 - Recv: "z$~
    11-05-2002 22:21:47.386 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Recv: ~
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Interpreted response: Ring
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINEDEVSTATE_RINGING(0x1)
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Recv: <ff>}#<c0>!}!
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Recv: !} }4}"
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.381 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: &} } }
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - TSP(0000): Answering Call
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Answering the call.
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINECALLSTATE_ACCEPTED
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: }%}&<ff><ff>
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: <88>
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: <c5>}'}"}(
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: }
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Recv: "z$~
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.391 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.401 - Send: CLIENTSERVER
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.401 - Connection established at 115200bps.
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.401 - Error-control off or unknown.
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.401 - Data compression off or unknown.
    11-05-2002 22:21:50.401 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINECALLSTATE_CONNECTED
    11-05-2002 22:22:20.404 - Read: Total: 508, Per/Sec: 13, Written: Total: 0, Per/Sec: 0
    11-05-2002 22:22:23.438 - TSP(0000): Dropping call
    11-05-2002 22:22:23.438 - Hanging up the modem.
    11-05-2002 22:22:23.438 - Hardware hangup by lowering DTR.
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.441 - Recv: <00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00>
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.441 - Unknown Response
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.441 - 115200,8,N,1, ctsfl=1, rtsctl=2
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.441 - Initializing modem.
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.451 - Waiting for a call.
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.451 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINECALLSTATE_DISCONNECTED(0x1)
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.451 - TSP(0000): LINEEVENT: LINECALLSTATE_IDLE
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.451 - TSP(0000): Dropping call
    11-05-2002 22:22:25.451 - TSP(0000): Closing Call
     
  7. kemcards

    kemcards New Member

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    Thanks to this site, I got one of those 3Com adapters from TigerDirect almost six months ago. Now that I finally have 3.0, I checked back for the instructions and set it up.

    I have a D-Link wireless router (713P) that you can also use as a regular Ethernet router. I have my computers set up with wireless connections, but since the router is close to the TV I used a simple Ethernet connection for the Tivo.

    My Tivo is an AT&T model which just got 3.0. At first I didn't think to reboot it, and it didn't recognize the USB adapter. Once I rebooted, it worked great, and now I don't have a phone cord snaking across my living room! Hurray!

    Thanks to all of you who post helpful info like this on the Tivo Community website.

    KEM
     
  8. flightrisk

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    First, I want to thank Otto and everyone who's posted in this thread. I was wracking my head trying to figure out why it wasn't working.

    As a few others have reported, using DHCP on the connection was a major stumbling block. WinXP and TiVo logs would both report a successful connection, and the router logs would show an HTTP request, but there was never any response and the test call would fail. I couldn't ping the TiVo, so that was strange. Assigning an IP range was the only way I could get it to work.

    One other stumbling block that I had -- when editing the mdmhayes.inf file in WinXP, my editor (gvim) created a backup file mdmhayes.inf~, and Windows happily used the original file instead of the updated one. Took a while before I noticed that in the modem log. Doh!

    I have a Sony SVR-2000 (unmodified!) <-> WinXP <-> Linksys BEFSR41 <-> Verizon DSL (Westell).
     
  9. DJRobX

    DJRobX {E2D9AA00-11F2-4F...

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    mgo058: Check your "baud" rate settings, looks like the PC and the TiVo aren't communicating at the same speed.

    -- Rob
     
  10. jpirone

    jpirone New Member

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    OK, Maybe I should just scour the web for a USB-Ethernet adapter that is absolutely on the (un)approved list. Got a Siemens from CompUSA, but I don't think it is specifically the one that's on the (un)approved list. I have a Linksys 4 port that utilizes DHCP, and get connection, but then it says the service is unavailable. The Tivo is daisy chained through a second hub however, might that be the issue??? I think I may try to connect directly to the linksys and see what happens.
     
  11. mostman

    mostman Member

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    Is it confirmed that the WUSB11 doesn't work? Sure would make things easier.

    -Mike
     
  12. High Speed Dubb

    High Speed Dubb New Member

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    PS: Taken care of... see my next post
    I&rsquo;m having problems getting a PPP via serial connection to work. This is with Windows XP (home), and the Tivo is a series 1 with software version 3.0. From the terminal output test suggested in Otto&rsquo;s guide, it looks like communication is going okay. For that matter, a connection does show up in &ldquo;Network Connections&rdquo; when I try to initiate a test (or normal) call. But the call always ends up with a &ldquo;Failed. Service unavailable&rdquo; message. I&rsquo;ve tried this at 9600 and seen the same result.

    I&rsquo;d appreciate any suggestions. In case my modem log will help out, here&rsquo;s what I&rsquo;ve got from it:

    11-27-2002 17:59:02.046 - 115200,8,N,1, ctsfl=0, rtsctl=1
    11-27-2002 17:59:02.046 - Initializing modem.
    11-27-2002 17:59:02.046 - Waiting for a call.
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: ~
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Interpreted response: Ring
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: <ff>}#<c0>!}!
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: !} }4}"
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: &} } }
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }%}&}
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }><ef>}'}
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: "
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Recv: }(}"'+~
    11-27-2002 17:59:44.687 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: ~
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Interpreted response: Ring
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: <ff>}#<c0>!}!
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Answering the call.
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: !} }4}"
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: &} } }
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }%}&}
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }><ef>}'}
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: "
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Recv: }(}"'+~
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.703 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.718 - Send: CLIENTSERVER
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.718 - Connection established at 115200bps.
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.718 - Error-control off or unknown.
    11-27-2002 17:59:47.718 - Data compression off or unknown.
    11-27-2002 18:00:17.718 - Read: Total: 605, Per/Sec: 16, Written: Total: 5740, Per/Sec: 190
    11-27-2002 18:02:17.718 - Read: Total: 703, Per/Sec: 0, Written: Total: 6969, Per/Sec: 10
    11-27-2002 18:02:55.437 - Hanging up the modem.
    11-27-2002 18:02:55.437 - Hardware hangup by lowering DTR.
    11-27-2002 18:02:57.437 - A timeout has expired waiting to comm event to occour.
    11-27-2002 18:02:57.437 - Recv: <00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00><00>
    11-27-2002 18:02:57.437 - Unknown Response
    11-27-2002 18:02:57.437 - 115200,8,N,1, ctsfl=0, rtsctl=1
    11-27-2002 18:02:57.437 - Initializing modem.
    11-27-2002 18:02:57.437 - Waiting for a call.
     
  13. DarkHelmet

    DarkHelmet TiVo Fanatic

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    For what its worth, the DTivo 3.1 release worked out-of-the-box on my Series1 (hughes) + Turbonet card with ,#401.

    But it seems the 3.1 DirecTivo release doesn't include USB support.
     
  14. High Speed Dubb

    High Speed Dubb New Member

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    Yay! It turns out I mistyped my subnet. The serial connection is now working fine.
     
  15. High Speed Dubb

    High Speed Dubb New Member

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    PS: I eventually picked up the Farallon USB ethernet adapter from Computer Geeks. It&rsquo;s working just fine.

    It&rsquo;s me again...

    This time I&rsquo;m having trouble getting an ethernet connection to work. (A PPP over serial connection is working fine, but it would be nice to be able to have the calls work even if the computer isn&rsquo;t on.)

    The dialing step always fails after about a minute, with a &ldquo;(Failed. Couldn't connect.)&rdquo; message.

    This is with an SMC 7000BR router and a 3Com USB ethernet adapter, on a series 2 Tivo with software version 3.2. The Tivo was unplugged for a couple minutes before trying to connect. It doesn&rsquo;t show up in the SMC&rsquo;s DHCP clients list, so that could be the source of the trouble.

    Thanks again for any hints.
     
  16. Dec 5, 2002 #256 of 375
    Xcelsior

    Xcelsior New Member

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    New TiVo owner as of yesterday and thanks to all of you who've blazed the trail. With your experimentation and experience, I've now been able to hook my new Series 2 to my DSL network wirelessly! And my wife thanks you for not requiring us to have telephone wire strewn all over the place.

    The set-up:

    TiVo series 2
    Linksys USB100M
    Linksys WET11
    Apple Airport Basestation (Version 1)
    Alcatel 1000

    My only issue came in setting up the connection the first time and having the ethernet cable come loose from the USB100M (it's an odd connector that requires everything to be just so). Once I played around with it and secured the wire, it connected just fine to the network.

    Now to find out all the cool stuff a TiVo can do!

    Thanks agaiin everyone!!
     
  17. Dec 5, 2002 #257 of 375
    fr3d

    fr3d Fr3d is Me

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    So, we all know that the HDVR2 doesn't support native USB broadband but I was thinking what we could do to enable it!

    As I understand it the HDVR2 and the new Series 2 units have signed kernels (using El-Gamal keys) do we know if they are signed with the same key material? If so we could take the kernel from a Series 2 SA and put it on the HDVR2 and it should verify. Assuming that the way they disabled it was by not including the NIC drivers or the USB hub drivers in the kernel I think this would get us taken care of.

    Now if they use loadable drivers vs kernel compiled drivers we may still be OK because we could take the drivers over, update the signature file to reference the new legitimately signed files and once again we should be OK.

    Does this sound feasible?

    Fr3d
     
  18. Dec 6, 2002 #258 of 375
    inaka

    inaka Well-Known Member

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    For those of us who require our TiVo's to have a Static IP, will installing the TurboNet CD installer from silicondust.com do the trick in 3.1?

    I just got the 3.1 update, and need to have my TiVo use a Static IP. Please let me know if I can yank out the HD, and re-install the TurboNet driver from that CD, thanks.
     
  19. Dec 6, 2002 #259 of 375
    psperry

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    Where do you find the modem log? I am trying to figure out why I am getting the error -- "Failed while configuring."
     
  20. NCTiVo

    NCTiVo New Member

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    A quick note to thank everyone for their efforts. I was able to connect my Tivo Series 2 to my home network via a linksys USB100M with no problem. It worked like a champ and I am loving life.

    Again, thanks for blazing the trail.

    Doug
     

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