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Using DirecTivo over Vonage (VoIP) - a solution

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by RedGrey, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. Jan 13, 2004 #81 of 634
    RightHere

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    I assume it would, but I think paying $99 for a modem is a LITTLE pricey (I'm trying to be nice to the advertiser). Also, there's no guarantee that it would be preconfigured with the settings you need to use Vonage. I believe they are slightly different from what you'd need to just use any old external modem.
     
  2. Jan 14, 2004 #82 of 634
    loki2043

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    what about my idea???? (check last 2 posts)
     
  3. Jan 16, 2004 #83 of 634
    loki2043

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  4. Jan 16, 2004 #84 of 634
    aristoBrat

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    "Getting into the DirecTiVo" is a lot of work. Check the Underground forums on here...
     
  5. Jan 17, 2004 #85 of 634
    gfoulks

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    I just ordered Vonage service and was checking out what posts I could find where people where using there Vonage in a Wireless G network and DirecTivo.

    Has anything changed with the Vonage hardware that will require me to use an external modem to make daily calls?
     
  6. Jan 19, 2004 #86 of 634
    astribli

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    Well, thought I would add my $.02 worth.

    Just finished hooking up my Philips DSR7000 via external modem and Vonage. Works great.

    I still don't understand why the internal modem doesn't work with Vonage. By using an external modem, with it's speed slowed down (either using an old piece of hardware or AT settings), we are saying that the internal modem doesn't have the capability of just slowing down to whatever speed the phone line can handle? The ability for modems to slow down as needed depending on noise/quality of phone line has been part of the modem standard since day 1 (in the 1970's). Why can't the internal modem simply slow down to something less than 56K? Besides, not everyone has phone lines that can connect at anything higher than 28K.

    Actually amazing it works at all considering all the pathways the signal is making. Here is my setup:

    1. DSR7000 to US Robotics Sportster 56k modem, slowed down to 14.4 using AT commands.

    2. US Robotics modem to RCA wireless phone jack (don't have a jack next to Tivo).

    3. RCA Wireless phone jack to Vonage ATA phone adapter

    4. Vonage phone adapter to my Linksys Router/Firewall

    5. Linksys Router to Motorola Cable modem

    6. Cable modem to Comcast to Internet

    Sure beats using SBC !
     
  7. Jan 20, 2004 #87 of 634
    Nugent

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    I have a HDVR2 and an imminent switchover to Vonage. To make my DirecTiVo work, I picked up a cheap US Robotics Sportster 28,800 fax modem on eBay.

    Using an old headphone jack and cable, with a DB25 jack from RS, I made up a TiVo to modem connector as described by RedGray (thanks!), complete with the 4-5 and 6-20 jumpovers.

    My problem is that the modem does not seem to be responding to the Tivo's attempts to dial out. Yes, I set the prefix to #319. I presume the test call goes via the external modem, not the internal one.

    Please give suggestions for troubleshooting. I also need advice on the appropriate dip switch settings:

    1. DTR normal/override
    2. Verbal/numeric result codes
    3. Suppress/display result codes
    4. Echo/no echo offline commands
    5. Auto answer on/off
    6. Carrier detect normal/override
    7. Load NVRAM/factory defaults
    8. Dumb/smart mode

    TIA!
     
  8. Jan 20, 2004 #88 of 634
    gfoulks

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    Maybe you should try to connect through Vonage first before trying to mess around with the external modem. From what I'm hearing the new ATA's are now able to make the calls now....

    I'll know more later this week when my ATA arrives and I set it up.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2004 #89 of 634
    Meinrad

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    If the new ATA's really work better, than I might be a Vonage customer sooner than later. I just wasn't up for doing the external modem thing.
     
  10. Jan 21, 2004 #90 of 634
    astribli

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    You need to place a comma "," before the code. It should be ,#319

    Use the PAUSE button to place a comma (I think), it shows you on the screen which buttons are what when progamming in the codes.


     
  11. Jan 22, 2004 #91 of 634
    Nugent

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    What a difference, a comma makes! Thanks, astribli for spotting that I hadn't spotted it.

    My external modem now works properly via POTS. My Vonage switchover is tomorrow. I'll try connecting via Vonage using both internal and external modems and report back here.
     
  12. Jan 23, 2004 #92 of 634
    Nugent

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    Ok, here is the report:

    Hardware: Cable internet (Charter) via a Motorola S85100 Surfboard Cable Modem (Circuit City), Vonage ATA Motorola VT1005V, Directivo HDVR2, US Robotics Sportster 28,800 external fax modem, set up as per RedGray's directions.

    I set the dial-in number to my local number, of course including the 1-area code.

    The result: Both the interal Directivo and external USR modems work via Vonage!

    Conclusion: I shouldn't have spent $2 plus shipping on eBay for the external modem.

    If the internal modem remains reliable, I am willing to give the USR modem and home-made interface cable to the first worthy user willing to pay shipping.
     
  13. Jan 23, 2004 #93 of 634
    scottt

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    Nugent, are you using any prefixes on the HDVR2 when using the internal modem with Vonage?
     
  14. Jan 28, 2004 #94 of 634
    Nugent

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    Nope - no prefixes, and it still seems to be working ok. Successful calls when I checked Monday.
     
  15. Feb 1, 2004 #95 of 634
    nerdtech

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    Nugent:

    I have a HDVR2 as well - and am looking at Vonage as an option for voice.

    I was just wondering if this is still all working for you - with the equipment that you are using:

    - HDVR2
    - Vonage ATA Motorola VT1005V
    - Cable Modem/DSL

    Are you a recent subscriber to Vonage - and is this a newer Motorola box that you got from them? Interested to hear...
     
  16. Feb 2, 2004 #96 of 634
    PhilEkins

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    semi off topic but does anybody have regular D* receivers that they are using w/ vonage and did they work ok over the broadband phoneline ??
     
  17. Feb 3, 2004 #97 of 634
    Nugent

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    nerdtech: my hardware, as you listed, is working fine. Yes, I am a recent Vonage customer with the new Motorola box and have cut the Bellsouth cable. I am happy with Vonage, especially the price. It's not perfect - for example: no power, no phone - but meets all my needs. Some features are really cool - I take it to my girlfriends place when I visit there (different state) and people who call me are really confused when I tell them I'm out of town.

    I you or anyone else wants to sign up, I'd appreciate referring you. I get a little kickback from Vonage and it doesn't cost you. Let me know.

    I previously posted that my Directivo dial-ins worked without any modifications. Well, it appears that this is unreliable after some experience. So just in case I am withdrawing my offer of a modem - sorry! However, it works just great with the external modem, which was easy and cheap to implement.
     
  18. Feb 3, 2004 #98 of 634
    scottt

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    Um, how unreliable?
     
  19. Feb 22, 2004 #99 of 634
    qposner

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    So whats the final verdict on the newere Motorola ATA's??? I have been with Vonage since last summer and have a Cisco ATA. Intitally the Motorolas were having problems with voice and the C iscos were reliable. However, if the nrew Motorolas are more reliable AND the HDVR2 is making calls, I may have to see if Vonage will swap mine out.

    So, whats the verdict??!!! Any help is, as always, appreciated. :)
     
  20. qposner

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    So whats the final verdict on the newer Motorola ATA's??? I have been with Vonage since last summer and have a Cisco ATA. Intitally the Motorolas were having problems with voice and the C iscos were reliable. However, if the nrew Motorolas are more reliable AND the HDVR2 is making calls, I may have to see if Vonage will swap mine out.

    So, whats the verdict??!!! Any help is, as always, appreciated. :)
     

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