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Using DirecTivo over Vonage (VoIP) - a solution

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by RedGrey, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    I have a question related to the Vonage service and maybe getting around trying a wireless phone adapter.

    I currently have a Panasonic phone system which has 3 cordless phones connecting via a single base. Are there any such phone systems that might have a standard phone jack on the handset? Why would this make sense? It would seem like an easy way to have a wireless connection that could connect when needed to Tivo boxes (or any device with a modem) that are not wired to the system base (definitely would work without Vonage, maybe would work with vonage).
     
  2. astribli

    astribli New Member

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    And like I mentioned in previous posts, why isn't the Tivo modem able to just ratchet the speed down to 14.4 or slower? Pretty simple stuff here.

     
  3. aristoBrat

    aristoBrat Active Member

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    You'd think, right? All I know is that nobody's been able to figure it out.
     
  4. astribli

    astribli New Member

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    Well, patience is a virtue I guess. It finished downloading version 3.1.1c last night.

    Is interesting to note that all those times it didn't complete the downloading, it did keep the pieces of the download and assembled them all together again last night to make the 3.1.1c update.

    So, I am happy once again.

    My Vonage service is fantastic and my Tivo is happy.
     
  5. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    Do those wireless phone jacks or wireless modem jacks work at all with Vonage and Tivo/DirecTivo? I have seen these Phonex and RCA products, but don't know if they will work with Vonage.
     
  6. dodgeboy

    dodgeboy New Member

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    This is a fantastic thread... I've been waiting for someone to figure out how to get an HDVR2 working with Vonage. After reading this thread, I ran out and picked up a Vonage starter kit. I made my cable and tested the HDVR2 with a USR 14.4k over Vonage. It passed with flying colors.

    Thanks again,
    Dave
     
  7. tivocat99

    tivocat99 It's the beach!

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    I have a question about the Phonex and/or RCA Wireless Modem Jacks. On the base that has two jacks, am I running from the Vonage ATA to the Wireless Modem Jack and then from the Modem Jack to the telephone? Is that correct? Then, of course, the TiVO plugs into the Modem Jack extension. (Bought my modem jack set off eBay and the manual wasn't included).
     
  8. dem0n2001

    dem0n2001 New Member

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    i went the PPP route and am not looking back.....i have a wireless laptop and i just go and update like every couple of days... before that i hadnt done an update in over 2 months... first time i set it up i got all the updates in about 2 minutes....lol
     
  9. F18fxr

    F18fxr RETIRED US NAVY

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    Arrrggghhhh!

    I tried the dsl filter and that didn't work, so I tried the external modem route and still not having any luck.

    I have a USR Sportster Vi 14.4 faxmodem. I built the serial cable as described, being careful with the jumpers and doubled checked everything.

    I'm getting "modem not responding ". (I used the ",#319" code).

    BTW, I bought the modem off ebay, so I'm not sure if it works correctly, even though I do get a light on the display.

    Can anyone help?!?!?
     
  10. cactus46

    cactus46 New Member

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    Try a ',#396' dial prefix. I'm not sure that the 14.4 modem is capable of 19,200 baud? ',#396' slows the modem down to 9600 baud.

    Other than that I would guess your home made cable may have a problem if you were able to set up the modem with your PC? Another approach if you have confidence in the modem is to order or use the TiVo-provided serial cable with a DB9-DB25 adapter. What are your dip switch settings?

    John
     
  11. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    Do you have a cable to connect the modem to a PC? You can use the Windows program Hyperterminal (Programs...Accessories...Communcations on Windows XP) and use the command ATDT to get a dial tone. Make sure you set the COM port in Hyperterminal accordingly. If that command works, most likely the modem is fine.

    It sounds like you are taking the dip-switch approach to programming the modem. I suggest setting the back to default and program the modem using the soft codes. Here are the codes that I used:

    AT&R1
    AT&S0
    AT&N10
    AT&U6
    AT&W0

    NOTE: AT&N10 sets the modem at 19,200 - you'll want to use AT&N6 for 9600 baud. Also, make sure that the #1 DIP switch is set low (down).

    Keep the ",#319" code on the Tivo - this tells it to use an external modem.

    Also, keep in mind that the slowdown code ",#396" only works on a series 1 DirecTivo. If you are using a series 2, then you'll have to use an external modem.
     
  12. tbeckner

    tbeckner TiVo Fan

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    This last week, many people are starting to report success with DirecTivo and Vonage with a Vonage parameter change and Motorola TA firmware upgrade. Before trying all of these other options, you might want to checkout this new information. Search for "Vonage" articles in this forum.

     
  13. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    The issue has always been Vongage's inability to handle a fast modem speed and the series II inability to accept slow-down codes. If there was a way around this on the Vonage end, that would be great!
     
  14. tbeckner

    tbeckner TiVo Fan

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    Agreed, but at the end of last week a few people started reporting that with the installation of the new firmware, version 17, and a change in the packetization rate to 10ms, from the standard 20ms, that they had no problems getting their Series 2 DriecTivo's, including the Hughes HDVR2 from making trouble free calls. This has been reported on numerous sites. I am not saying that it is true, I haven't tried it myself.
     
  15. F18fxr

    F18fxr RETIRED US NAVY

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    I haven't changed the settings in the external modem yet, I will give that a try tonight. I'll also try to hook directly up to Vonage as one of the posters suggested, I haven't tried that method in several months....maybe it will work now.
     
  16. aristoBrat

    aristoBrat Active Member

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    From reading some of the Vonage posts in other forums here, it looks like v17 of the firmware for the Motorola box is required. You might have to call Vonage to have them update your box.
     
  17. Bardman

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    I would have to guess that something good came out of the V17 firmware for the Vonage Motorola box.

    I have both my HDVR2s connected thru my house wiring into the vonage modem (Just pulled the main phone line out and connected my vonage modem into the phone hub) and they are both getting their routine calls done.

    in fact, my hacked (120Gb add on drive) unit in the family room is using 7-digit dialing and had a successful call just yesterday.

    Vonage modem info:
    Software Version: VT20_01.1.17
    Bootrom Version: VT20_01.1.17
     
  18. F18fxr

    F18fxr RETIRED US NAVY

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    Simpsonville...
    How do you find the software version?
     
  19. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    You probably have to have the Vonage modem wired such that it is your primary router so you can access the configuration through a browser. If you just have the modem plugged into your network, there is no way to see that page.
     
  20. ibleedblue

    ibleedblue New Member

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    Plug your ethernet cable from the NIC to the PC port on the moto box. You need to bypass the router (leave the moto box hooked to router) 192.168.102.1 is the IP addy for the moto box. This will get you into the ATA setup. You should be able to find the software version from there. Can't be more specific because I'm at work and the ATA is at home.
     

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