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Using DirecTivo over Vonage (VoIP) - a solution

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by RedGrey, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. ckelly5

    ckelly5 Denny Crane

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    For some sort of update on this sitch. I received the Mot ATA from vonage, and proceeded to hook up my Philips DSR704 to it. it tried to dial out, but no dice. I checked the vonage bandwidth setting, and tried several of the prefixes to no avail. For some reason the 9600 setting would appear to make the most progress, but would still give a "can not connect" error. I am going the route that dallas4u tried, and ordered an external kit from eksys.com. hopefully I will have that by the end of the week and can see how that works.
     
  2. dallas4u

    dallas4u New Member

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    Just to give you an update... it seems my unit has been trying to download the C update for around a month now and nevers finishes. I can update dialing numbers and make test calls fine but never finish the daily call... I use to be able to, but now it seems it states "Failed... Call Interupted" after around 20 minutes after every call. I have tried changing the number to different numbers throughout Oregon, plus the 212 number posted earlier, and 972 in Texas.

    I will keep trying, hoping eventually it will finish the download.
     
  3. Lenco

    Lenco New Member

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    dallas4u - " ... now it seems it states "Failed... Call Interrupted" after around 20 minutes after every call ..."

    I went through the same thing dallas4u. It does not matter what phone number you use. I believe that every time you connect you get a little bit more of the software update. Eventually it WILL complete. When it does you will see "Pending system restart", or something similar.

    I manually forced the call, waited for it to time out, just like you described, forced the call again. I repeated this until the download completed. You can then restart the unit so the update can install.

    Hang in there and good luck.
     
  4. Lenco

    Lenco New Member

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    ckelly5,

    I spent a lot of time trying different things to get it to work and finally relalized that it was a waste of time. A quick trip to the "Shack" and an hour later I had a working solution.

    Don't forget to try slower modem speeds with a Dial Prefix of ,#396 or ,#319.
     
  5. qposner

    qposner New Member

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    Dallas, I finally got everything working and it made its most recent weekly call with no problem. I am in Vancouver, WA (assuming you are in OR and thats why you are using OR #'s). I used a NY # and am not going to change anything. Just keep trying. It will work.
     
  6. dallas4u

    dallas4u New Member

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    Yup, I'm in Portland, and I used the 212 (NY or somewhere in Baltimore?) a few times with the same problem. I didn't have a problem completing the daily calls before it began the LONG downloads (which I am assuming at the C update). I thought that it was downloading pieces of the update and over time would install them and state "Pending system restart", but after complete call attempts not failed ones.

    I have been using ,#319 which I believe is 19.2k baud. I have tried ,#311, #396 and both dialed and connected but would still fail. I thought maybe the ,#311 would fail because it was trying to connect too high (I believe ,#311 is 115k), but it doesn't look like it matters.

    I guess I'll change it to ,#396 for a while and see if it will make a difference.
     
  7. qposner

    qposner New Member

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    #396 with the Vonage bandwith set to max is what I am using. The quality of my calls has not changed either when I am on the computer.

    Off topic, how did that new Multnomah County tax feel? ;-)
     
  8. dallas4u

    dallas4u New Member

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    How did it feel? I feel like I want to move to Seattle!
     
  9. ckelly5

    ckelly5 Denny Crane

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    well, after several attempts (and thinking that vonage was broken - turns out I had some of the key ports blocked via my router), I was able to get it working over vonage via the external modem. I am currently using the ,#319 setting, and it is downloading something big, hopefully the "C" upgrade. I have seen the "Call interrupted" message once already, and am using a 212 number (new york city) Time will tell as to if I get the "C" or not. All in all, mark this one a success via the external modem route.
     
  10. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    What does #396 do?
     
  11. cactus46

    cactus46 New Member

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    It slows the communications speed with the external modem to 9600 baud and the string should be ,#396. It won't work without the comma-pound-3-9-6.

     
  12. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    On a series 1 unit right? I didn't think the modem slowdown codes work on series 2.
     
  13. voodoovid

    voodoovid TiVoholic

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    Just to confirm:

    Tivo modem calls a LOCAL access number for all it's updates (and requires an external modem to work with Vonage)

    Directv modem calls an 800 number to upload PPV etc (and doesn't require an external modem to work with Vonage)

    Do I have it right (ie. Directv never uses LOCAL numbers)?

    Thanks,

    voodoovid
     
  14. strange_69

    strange_69 New Member

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    Yes, you have it right. Just plug a phone cord from your Tivo to the phone connection on your external modem and then plug you external modem into your phone jack. Then use the info in this thread and you should be good to go. Since most VOIPs do not charge extra for long distance you can play around with phone numbers until you can find one that works :)
     
  15. Sytar

    Sytar New Member

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    Well with a bit of testing I found that I got my HDVR2 is the following:

    First change the dialing prefix to be 1 - this is because Vonage needs 11 digit dialing.

    Second add two pauses (a total of 4 seconds) by adding ",," to the Call Waiting Prefix - This gives the modem enough time to pick up before dialing.

    Third change the Set Dial Tone Detection to OFF - This will allow the Tivo to attempt to dial even if it dosn't hear the specific tone that it expects for a dial tone.

    That is all I needed. I didn't have to change any of the speeds or anything else. It worked fine.

    Jerry T
     
  16. May 1, 2004 #236 of 634
    dem0n2001

    dem0n2001 New Member

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    i have a direct tv tivo..(phillips)i have seen so many post with so many different ways (and tried a few already) can somebody post the best steps to using it with vonage.?
     
  17. May 1, 2004 #237 of 634
    aristoBrat

    aristoBrat Active Member

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    Yeah, it would be cool to get a FAQ for this and have it stickied at the top of the forums...
     
  18. May 1, 2004 #238 of 634
    chippyt

    chippyt New Member

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    Sytar-

    Is your solution without an external modem, just adding the 1 for 11 digit dialing, two commas and setting the Dial Tone Detection to OFF?

    Has anyone else had luck with this?

    I want to get Vonage, but the DirecTIVO issue and the fact that they don't have my area code are holding me back. If one or the other gets solved I may try it out.
     
  19. May 2, 2004 #239 of 634
    Sytar

    Sytar New Member

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    Well this is kind of a strange setup. I am not exactly sure how it works, but with one unit, my Sony T-60 it completed the call with the internal modem and those settings. With the HDVR2 it was a bit more touchy. I was able to complete the test call about 3/5 of the time, and have yet to complete the full call. I am going to set them all up on the phone line even though I know I don't need to, and see if they can make the phone call work at some time.

    I really don't want to use an external modem at all, so I think I will go with no call then add another peice of hardware that I don't want.
     
  20. May 4, 2004 #240 of 634
    ChiTownTimmay

    ChiTownTimmay New Member

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    I have the Moto ATA and hooked up a 33.6 external USR modem, i can dial out and connect but thats it. It will just sit there and make the annoying analog modem sounds and then disconnect. I'm not sure where to go with this. I took my Philips DVR704 over to a house with an analog line and completed the initial setup but in bringing it home and trying it out, no dice. QUESTION: For those of you who say you have used a different area code and number to dial since long distance service is included with Vonage, how did you get to change the number without having to put in the area code and having it dial the 800 number to search the database? Is that the only way? If thats the case then I'm dead in the water as well because I cannot complete a call.

    I would imagine there has to be a fool-proof solution out there somewhere since it seems like a 50/50 ratio as to whether or not this works. Some people have absolutely no problem, and others, like myself, just cant get it to work. I do appreciate everyone's help thusfar though! :)
     

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