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Using DirecTivo over Vonage (VoIP) - a solution

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by RedGrey, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. deltwalrus

    deltwalrus New Member

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    I see that auction you referred to, dallas4u. I think I have all that stuff, except for the TiVo serial cable. Does the particular model of modem matter? The one I have laying around at home is an old US Robotics 56k modem, not sure of the model #.
     
  2. ChromeAce

    ChromeAce Early Adopter

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    Chesterfield...
    Dump Vonage. If you wanna save money for real, get a TurboNet in your TiVos so they can do their daily calls over the Internet directly. As for PPV, use DirecTV's website. It's free, and will save you some money. As for voice calls, use your cell phone.

    I got Vonage over a year ago when no one else had it. It was cool. But I knew that converting a digital signal to analog so it could be carried acoustically on a digital network was insane. I got my T60s to call in a few times just to succeed at the challenge. I think I used ,#096 to force 9600bps.

    DirecTV doesnt check caller ID (ANI) records anymore to see where the receivers are calling from unless you raise suspicion. I have 10 receivers in 2 different states (at 2 homes) both under one account in one city, all have access to the local channels of my home city. None call in, I order PPV on the web, and the DirecTiVos connect via broadband.
     
  3. deltwalrus

    deltwalrus New Member

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    Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll keep Vonage, since I'm paying a third of what I paid SBC. And the TiVo calls are local calls, so how do you figure that makes any difference?

    But I digress ...

    If anyone has extra parts for this external modem setup, please PM me.
     
  4. ChromeAce

    ChromeAce Early Adopter

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    1/3 of SBC is still 100% too much if you don't need it. One less bill to pay. Use your cell phone for voice calls.
     
  5. deltwalrus

    deltwalrus New Member

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    ... isn't this a TiVo board? :)
     
  6. astribli

    astribli New Member

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    Yup, and we are discussing using Tivo with Vonage phone service.....

     
  7. deltwalrus

    deltwalrus New Member

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    Columbus, Ohio
    ...not whether I should switch all my calls to my cell phone, which I may or may not have. Let's stay on topic.

    So to summarize, the consensus seems to be that external modems are hit and miss, using the bare Vonage setup with no modification is nearly always unsuccessful, and going through a TiVoNet or other LAN method is easiest.
     
  8. k2ue

    k2ue Retired RF Engineer

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    I've found (as I think others have reported) that pay-per-view calls seem to go thru OK on Vonage, even though the daily calls won't. Is there consensus on that?
     
  9. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    My HDVR2 dials out to DirecTV just fine to report PPV and or keep my NFL Sunday Ticket on that box. But it doesn't dial out to Tivo obviously. But again, YMMV and it's possible that yours won't connect to DirecTV.
     
  10. astribli

    astribli New Member

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    Just the opposite. Using my external US Robotics 28.8 modem works like a charm every time with Vonage.

     
  11. dallas4u

    dallas4u New Member

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    Dec 8, 2003
    Portland, OR
    My dip switches on my external USR 33.6 modem are set up like the following:

    1.\/ 2./\ 3.\/ 4./\ 5.\/ 6./\ 7./\ 8.\/

    To recap, that's 1-down, 2-up, 3-down, 4-up, 5-down, 6-up, 7-up, 8-down.

    Here's an interesting development. It's had no problems dialing out for around a month... until yesterday. I tried forcing a call (as I don't keep a phone line plugged in 24/7). It dialed out, connected, and started downloading. It looks like it's trying to download something large ("C" maybe?) as it stays connected, downloading dor around 15 minutes... then the "Phone in Use" light on my phone goes off. The status still shows "Downloading" on the DTivo, and "Phone in Use" on the DTivo as well for another minute or two, then I get the dreaded connection failed, call interrupted error. I tried 4-5 times and got the same error lastnight and this morning.

    Not too sure what to do now but keep trying.
     
  12. wolftroy1

    wolftroy1 New Member

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    I'm having the same problem. I'm not too concerned at this point though. It will make the test calls with no problems but will not keep connected for a long period of time.
     
  13. Rombaldi

    Rombaldi MPEG Packet Picker

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    Soon as you figure out how to put a TurboNet card in a HDVR2, ya'll let us know, 'k?
     
  14. cactus46

    cactus46 New Member

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    A few weeks ago my stand-alone began experiencing problems dialing in with Vonage. An idea occurred to me about reducing some of the delay in the call by calling an access number in NYC, 212 area code. Since I'm using Vonage with 500 minutes a month, using an out of area number isn't a major consideration.

    So far all of my calls for the past few days have been completing about 90% again. If you want the 212 access number, just ask. My HDVR2 is doing ok on the external modem dialing in on a local number.

    John

     
  15. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    I ordered a cable from Ryan, but I can't get it to work. When I try to dial out (using prefix ,#319) the modem blinks a couple of times but then fails.

    I sent Ryan several emails but no response. His website seems to be offline as well. Do you have any additional contacts for him?

    thanks,
     
  16. wolftroy1

    wolftroy1 New Member

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    Trying the suggestion of cactus46 I set my dial in number to Baltimore, MD (I live in Tacoma, WA). Prior to this I had software version 3.0.0, after a succesful early morning call and next day reboot, I now have software version 3.1.1b.
    So it seems best to long distance the call with Vonage.
     
  17. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    Update: I finally got the modem to dial by setting the #1 dip switch low (down). There was no problem with the cable. FWIW, I took it apart and inspected it - very professional product.

    Subsequently, I had reprogrammed the modem (connected to COM2 on my PC with Hyperterminal connected directly to COM2) using these codes:

    AT&R1
    AT&S0
    AT&N10
    AT&U6
    AT&W0

    At first, this setup worked over my POTS line, but now seems to disconnect as it is negotiating a connection (both Vonage and POTS).

    A friend with Vonage had to get a setting on his account modifyed to work with his ADT security system. The setting is "packetization period" and the value is 10ms. This was late last night, and I have not had the opportunity to do any more testing.

    Boy how I wish I could just network this machine....:mad:
     
  18. Lenco

    Lenco New Member

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    Ever since 3.1.1.c was introduced into the pipeline last month my unit could not complete a call successfully. Prior to this it would complete approximately 80% of the calls. Coincidence? I was still running 3.1.1.b.

    After some deliberation I decided to make the serial cable using instructions found in this thread (Thank You!) and connected it to a spare US Robotics 56k modem.

    My first test was a bit confusing. I made the cable, connected it to the unit and tried a test call. Every time it went Off Hook and heard the dial tone it would just stop and never dial.

    I re-examine the cable and found it to be correct. I started the test process again and this time I picked up on the fact that I was hearing the “Stuttering” dial tone. Meaning a voice-mail message was waiting for my intervention.

    I took care of this new message. Repeating the test process I heard the “Solid” dial tone. This time the modem dialed properly, connected and life is good again.

    I did all of this about two weeks ago. Finally, today I received the 3.1.1.c update. It took many calls, approx 12 to finish the download but it worked!

    Thanks to all for the information, reading and entertainment!

    I also noted that TechTV had planned on having a host on talking about TiVO. Their web site made reference to this forum, very cool!
    :up:
     
  19. pigvig

    pigvig TiVo Underling

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    I tested the modem again tonight, and it is still disconnecting during the dialing process - right when the "negotiation" gets to the static sounding part. This happens on both POTS and Vongage, so I think this is a modem or Tivo issue.

    Anybody got any ideas???

    FWIW, my DSR-7000 was upgraded to 3.1.1c a few days ago.
     
  20. Lenco

    Lenco New Member

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    Do you have access to another modem? Just for Shxts & Grins to test?

    Don't want to see you beat up yourself just yet without testing!
     

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