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Upgrading Series 3 HDD to 2Tb

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Stinkweed8, Feb 23, 2014.

  1. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    I also have to imagine I might be better off foregoing saving recordings. We have a decent amount on there, but nothing we prob can't get from watching on network websites. I would prob stress terribly waiting for hours for the shows to copy.
     
  2. jlb

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    Now I'm a little nervous having ordered the 20eurs. I'm not sure I'll have a proper place to run wdidle on the drive. Our computer gets a lot use on the weekends and god forbid anything happens to it when I take out the drive......

    IIRC, I thought I read that maybe the drive comes with it off????
     
  3. unitron

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    If it's been manufactured in the last year or so, it should come from the factory with Intellipark disabled, but be sure to run WD's own diagnostic long test on it before doing anything else with it.

    You can hook it up via USB adapter to run the long test, so you don't have to open up the PC for that.
     
  4. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    Well, in hopes of my 2TB drive arriving tomorrow, I cracked open my HD to get the starting to fail drive out and make a truncated backup. Went without a hitch. Well, except I forgot to hook the plug back into the HDD. All booted back up fine. And thankfully, the power supply looked fine. No doming caps.

    Part 2 of the operation tomorrow hopefully.
     
  5. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    New drive arrived this morning!!!! Watching some of the Bruins game then finishing the operation.....

    New drive mfgd in Sep 2013 it looks like, so Intellipark should be disabled...
     
  6. jlb

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    Plugged things in. Got a GSOD. Even though it said to leave it for 3 hours I unplugged and re plugged in.

    It got to GSOD again. Do I leave it and let it try to get past it or should I start a swap process with Newegg?
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Are you using an image taken from that TiVo or another of the same model?
     
  8. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    I had upgraded my stock TiVoHD a few years ago using a 1TB Hitachi drive. Did a truncated backup of that and then restored that to the new 2TB WD drive. So yes, image is from my same TiVoHD.
     
  9. L David Matheny

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    Was the unit running a late enough version of the TiVo software (at the time of backup) that it could work with a 2TB drive?
     
  10. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    I had checked before I even bought the drive. I don't remember off hand what it was but i remember it being late enough. I can always double check if I end up putting the older 1tb dive back in after I try to let it recover from the GSOD.

    For reference, what version does it have to be?
     
  11. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    Any thoughts in how long to give it? We're basically at the 3 hour mark and no sign of coming out of GSOD.....

    I'm about ready to pull it and put the 1tb hitachi back in.
     
  12. jlb

    jlb NCC-1701-D

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    Well hallelujah!

    Just as I was about to give up and pull the drive, voila, on comes the TiVo boot video. And things look good. Reporting 318 HD hours. SP list is there.

    Incidentally, for David, it's 11.0m-01-2-652.

    The only weird thing is some of the TiVo Central shortcuts don't work. TiVo 4 and 6 go to the Find Programs menu instead of jumping down the next level. That's fine though.


    Oh, and the WD20EURS is infinitely quieter than the Hitachi drive I had.
     
  13. jlb

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    No signs of any problems whatsoever. I think the scan did it's thing and all is well for now.....
     
  14. lyee

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    Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread! I had tried upgrading my TivoHD from 1TB to 2TB about 2 years ago and it was never stable and I reluctantly reverted back to the 1TB disk. I remember there was a VERY long thread and various discussions to get around the extra partition if recordings were to be saved on an already upgraded HD. With World Cup, Formula 1, Wimbledon, etc. recently, my TivoHD was deleting a show with every new recording...
    Luckily, I found this thread and sucessfully performed the upgrade. It took about 4 hours to complete. Now I can delay my Roamio Plus purchase just a little longer! :)
     
  15. bmgoodman

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    This thread seems quiet now, so I thought I'd ask a related question.

    Disk Diagnostics:

    My 4 year old Tivo HD with WD10EVDS was showing some stuttering during playback lately, so I did a Kickstart 54 and ran some diagnostics. Everything came back good, except the "Extended Overnight Test", which returned "TEST FAILED. There are now 1 point(s) in the Red Zone".

    So, I swapped in a never-used 2 TB WD20EURS following the procedure here (after first running extended WD diagnostics on it). I ran it for 2 days and then decided to do another KS 54 and re-run the "Extended Overnight Test". This time I saw a warning about being unable to access /dev/hdb (not surprising with no second drive), but then I immediately got a "TEST FAILED" on /dev/hda, which I did NOT expect. It didn't even draw the graph axes. Can anyone else with a 2 TB drive get this test to run?

    The Tivo HD itself now seems to be operating fine, but I'm just a bit concerned the "Extended Overnight Test" won't even begin to run.
     
  16. jmbach

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    Would use the manufacturer's diagnostic test on the drive. If it passes that you should be good to go.
    I don't have a TiVo HD but I have an OLED S3 with a 2TB drive. I'll run the test this weekend and see what it does.
     
  17. unitron

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    If it's worth testing the drive itself (as opposed to the software on it), it's worth pulling it out of the TiVo and running the manufacturer's own diagnostics.

    That and one time I ran KS54 just out of curiosity on an S2 DT and it screwed up the drive.

    (Since I was able to get it working again by using WinMFS to rewrite the boot sector and swap to the alternate boot partition, it wasn't anything wrong with the drive)

    Of all the things I like about TiVos, KS54 ain't one of them.
     
  18. squint

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    I'm greatly in favor of removing the drive and testing in a PC. Kickstarts rarely seem to fix problems and often make things worse. I had one that was stuck in guided setup with a SO3 error. I tried Kickstart 57 and 58 and got stuck in the GSOD which was a big step backwards. I eventually figured out how to get out of the GSOD so it's back to being stuck in guided setup w/S03 error.
     
  19. bmgoodman

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    I actually ran the WD external diagnostics in my PC before I installed it, as well as a full test with Stablebit Scanner. Both showed no issues. My only concern was that this is the first time I've *ever* attempted an "Extended Overnight Test" through KS 54 that failed to run the test. I don't know if this is related to being > 1 TB drive, which was the original max for Tivo HD, IIRC.
     
  20. mhuffman

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    Stinkweed8 - I am having the same problem you had (s03 error, ultimately stuck in a guided setup loop). It appears that you were able to copy your 1tb disk with the errors to a 2tb disk using WinMFS and the new one worked - is that correct? Did you have to do anything else to fix the s03 error?

    Thanks,

    Marc
     

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