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Two Layers of Parental Controls

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BigVBGuy, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. BigVBGuy

    BigVBGuy New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Hi everyone,

    I'm looking for a DVR that has two layers of parental controls. Do any of the recent TiVo offerings have this feature?

    In case there's any confusion, let me explain. I have a 6-year-old and a 13-year-old who both use the televisions in my home, and I have different standards for what each is allowed to watch. I want to be able to setup one code that will allow my 13-year-old to bypass the controls that prevent my 6-year-old from watching anything that is not kid friendly. This part is easy; my current TiVo HD and Series3 DVRs can do this with KidsZone (or even the basic parental controls). However, I then want the ability to set a separate code that will prevent my 13-year-old from watching R-rated or TV-M programming.

    Is this possible with Roamio, for example? If not, are there any DVRs in the market that can do this? TIA
  2. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    I don't know for sure, but I don't think ANY product has anything like this.
  3. telemark

    telemark New Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    Are we talking 2 tv's and 2 tivo's for 2 kids, 1 each or are they sharing 1 TV and 1 Tivo?

    I wonder if you can use the TV's V-chip to get a 2nd level.

    In my testing now, on a Premiere, Using SD Analog (AV) outputs:
    The Tivo's output signal includes V-Chip data and ClosedCaptioning. This has the funny effect of being able to run 2 closed captioning displayed simultaneously.

    So this could work if you're ok with some of the side effects. So you set the TV's V-Chip to 13-yr old acceptable content. And set the Tivo to Kids Zone and give the exit code to the 13yr old.

    When watching restricted content either live or during playback, the TV should refuse display and ask for it's code. The Tivo button returns the display and Tivo back to a normal state though.

    The main downside is this is stuck at 480i. Maybe perfect if you have a spare SD TV.
  4. unitron

    unitron Active Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    One TiVo for the little kid, a second one for the bigger kid, and a third for Mom and Dad.
  5. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

    Sep 24, 2004
    Kindle Freetime gets close (not that it has anything to do with TiVo/DVRs). It has up to four profiles that can be tailored to the different ages of your children. If TiVo brought back some of the KidZone features to the Roamio, and added them into the oft-discussed and still-elusive TiVo user profiles, it could be a nearly perfect solution for this kind of use case.

    But yeah, right now, I'm not aware of any other DVRs that are even trying to do something like this.
  6. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    Bear in mind that even with Parental Controls turned on, it won't stop a kid from accessing 3rd party apps like Netflix. This is a huge oversight by TiVo.
  7. spaldingclan

    spaldingclan Member

    Aug 22, 2012
    but all you have to do is turn on parental controls within Netflix's website and it will affect everythign on the Tivos netflix app. Even will block R rated movies from showing in your "adult" profile.
  8. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    True, but that's a less than ideal solution, since it forces me to go into my Netflix account and change the settings every time I want to watch something.
  9. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

    Oct 31, 2007
    You could just tell the kids what you expect from them and monitor for compliance... It has generally worked for me.

    Yeah, I know - I am a pain in the ass, but I never felt I needed Parental controls.

    I set rules and I expect them to be followed - period!

    I could see some value in having a history log available, for several reasons.
  10. BigVBGuy

    BigVBGuy New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Thanks everyone for the input. I hadn't thought of using the TV's parental controls; I'll give it a try.

    It would really be nice if user profiles would someday be available, but I won't hold my breath.

    By the way, my kids are pretty good about only watching what we taught them is appropriate. However, the additional filtering would reduce the chances that they'll stumble onto something that isn't appropriate. The nice thing is that when they have stumbled onto things in the past, they've been really good about simply turning off the TV and coming to tell me or their mom.
  11. telemark

    telemark New Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    Saw this later, the Sony RM-KZ1. you know, for kids.


    It might work, not sure. It does list codes for Tivo. I don't know how to hit the "Live TV" button though.

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  12. RKH1011

    RKH1011 New Member

    Dec 4, 2014
    I know this is an old thread, but I found it by searching; others will too. Not being able to block apps is a much bigger deal than it was a year ago. Not just Netflix -- there's all kinds of stuff there now. It's become a major problem in my house. I don't want my 13-year-old into all that stuff and sometimes he's home alone. Come on, TiVo!

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