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TWC Hawaii moving all HD to SDV

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by HiKent, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. Aug 30, 2007 #21 of 436
    brianlees

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    Not that it will really do any good. However, you should contact your US Senators and representative and your state reps as well. Hawaii might be in a more unique situtation compared to other states. OTA broadcasts do stink (I have been there four times and can speak from experience). Since this is the case, perhaps there is some leverage that can be used, either to delay the switch over or to get the FCC off their a$$es and actually give a crap about the people they server. Oh, that's right, they do care about the people they server...or should I say companies?!
     
  2. Aug 30, 2007 #22 of 436
    JoeSchueller

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    I wished I shared this rosy point-of-view. SDV provides some bandwidth savings to the provider (including FIOS providers) and it is entirely reasonable that they will move as much as feasible in this direction. Bandwidth is a vacuum - as soon as more is created, it is used. SDV executed right saves bandwidth, thus will be used extensively. The only good news is that it makes less sense to have popular channels on it, but smaller channels are most likely doomed.

    It also makes business sense to lock you back in to their boxes. That way they can charge higher rental rates and pimp VOD and PPV at you all the time. This is likely a losing battle unless the gov't mandates otherwise.
     
  3. Aug 30, 2007 #23 of 436
    HiDefGator

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    Wouldn't the only people that care if they get SDV or not today be the Tivo S3 owners? There are not enough of them to affect deployment of SDV. Kind of like a tiny little pimple on the ...
     
  4. Aug 30, 2007 #24 of 436
    jfh3

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    And Sony DHG users and anyone that has a CableCARD installed in their TV.
     
  5. Aug 30, 2007 #25 of 436
    sfhub

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    Any one who is using a QAM tuner would care. If the channels that are moved happen to only include encrypted channels, then only people with QAM + CableCARD would care (because the moved channels wouldn't have been visible before or after the change to SDV)
     
  6. Aug 30, 2007 #26 of 436
    HiDefGator

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    So across the whole country there are maybe a few hundred thousand people that would be impacted by SDV if it went nationwide tomorrow. I guess that explains why they are working so hard on alternative solutions to SDV.
     
  7. Aug 31, 2007 #27 of 436
    MickeS

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    But these are vocal people. :)
     
  8. Aug 31, 2007 #28 of 436
    sfhub

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    Apparently a few hundred thousand people can occupy Iraq, imagine what they could do to TWC :)
     
  9. Sep 5, 2007 #29 of 436
    Sy-

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    FWIW... I just talked to a Tivo rep to cancel service on my S1 Tivo because my $800 Lifetime S3 Tivo is going to replace my S1 when Oceanic flips the SDV switch on Sept 24 :( . I was told me that those channels that Oceanic are designating SDV will not go black because they are mandated by the FCC to provide, via digital cable cards, ANY channel that is available on Oceanic's digital set top box. I was unconvinced, but he insisted that that is the case. I already returned my cable cards for Oceanics crappy HD DVR. But it will be interesting to see if he is right. Those of you that still have your cablecards keep me posted.
    ~Sy-
     
  10. Sep 5, 2007 #30 of 436
    Goldwing2001

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    Sy - I spoke to a TiVo Rep on Saturday and he told me that I would not be able to receive the Oceanic channels switching to SDV. He told me they're in the works of making a device that would connect between the cable line and a TiVo's box USB port to act as a two-way device needed to acces SDV channels. When and how much this device will be available is unknown, but, probably next year some time.
     
  11. Sep 5, 2007 #31 of 436
    Sy-

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    Yea... I knew that... Funny how not all the CSR's are working off the same playbook.
     
  12. Sep 9, 2007 #32 of 436
    pashasurf7873

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    It's happening... even though the switchover to sdv in Hawaii is supposed to happen on the 24th, universal hd and various sports channels like Fuel are no longer available.
    Contacted Tivo about the eneral SDV problem and they just say that Tivo is hard at work to come out with an 'external device' to solve the problem. How long do you suppose that will take??
     
  13. Sep 10, 2007 #33 of 436
    is2scooby

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    We're already starting to lose channels? :(

    I can't imagine going back to an Oceanic DVR, but what choice do I have with my Tivo 3 being useless? Grrr.
     
  14. Sep 10, 2007 #34 of 436
    HiKent

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    Did you notice how Universal HD and FoxSportsHD went to "Channel Unavailable?" -- unlike when we lost ESPN2HD this spring -- when that channel just went blank. My theory is they just took ESPN2HD out of the cablecard lineup for not technical reason -- other than it was fun for them to mess with cablecard users.
     
  15. Sep 13, 2007 #35 of 436
    pashasurf7873

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    FWIW I just noticed that both Universal HD and Fuel are back in the lineup.
    Now just hope for a miracle on Sept 24th.
     
  16. Sep 14, 2007 #36 of 436
    HiKent

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    Does anyone know if TWC changed their mind, or is a week from Monday still D-Day?
     
  17. Sep 14, 2007 #37 of 436
    is2scooby

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    I am crossing my fingers. I can't stand the thought of going without my Tivo 3... GRRR.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2007 #38 of 436
    is2scooby

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    Are there any Hawaii residents monitoring this thread that are articulate and focused enough to write a 'letter to the editor' type of piece for the different papers? (Advertiser, Star Bulletin, MidWeek, etc.)?
     
  19. Sep 20, 2007 #39 of 436
    pashasurf7873

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    I have written the fcc and local regulator, no response yet...I suppose a letter to the editor couldn't hurt. with 4 days to go til the big Hawaii HD shut out, it may be too late.
    this whole experience and the thought of going back to TWC DVR is depressing. :thumbsdown: :( :mad:
     
  20. Sep 20, 2007 #40 of 436
    hddude55

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    This is very disturbing. I have a series 2 that is becoming problematic and was considering a second series 3, but would have to be a dunce to buy a second one until this matter is resolved. I am very surprised TiVo has recently introduced a second hdtv model without addressing this situation. Sales certainly must be suffering on both hdtv models, unless people are clueless.
     

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