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TWC Hawaii moving all HD to SDV

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by HiKent, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. Icarus

    Icarus Member

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    You will uncheck the SDV channels in the channel list until they give you the tuning resolver, which might be available soon. They were saying the end of the year, now they are saying January. Who knows when it will really be available. If you read other threads in this forum, you know that the tuning resolver is out there and available. Now, it's just that OTW is being slow to roll it out.

    If you tell Tivo to record Mythbusters on Discovery HD, that's what it will try to do. If you use a wishlist for Mythbusters, it will attempt to record it on any available channel. Since you unchecked Discovery HD, it will only find it on Discovery and record it there. Later when the tuning resolver is available, you can modify the wishlist or replace it with a season pass tied to the HD channel.

    If Tivo has a choice of 2 channels for a show, Tivo will record from the lower numbered channel. In our case, that means you don't get the HD one automatically unless you use a season pass or specific channel recording or specify HD in the wishlist, which doesn't always give you the results you might expect. It's manageable, and you'll figure it out. Some people manage it by unchecking the SD version of the channel in the available channel list, so Tivo only sees that the show is available on the HD channel. (I do that with most of the analog broadcast channels.) I would say that if you ask 3 different people how they manage this, you will probably get 3 different answers. You will find the best method that works for you. It's all very manageable.

    If you get a Tivo HD, you should get one multi-channel card, and in that case, you can avoid some of the duplicate service and other charges that those of that have S3s have to pay. The S3 needs two CCs. The HD and HD XL can use a single multi-channel card in place of 2 CCs with the same results. The amount they charge will vary depending on what other services you have. I pay $8 x2 (per CC) for duplicate service. Most people end up paying another $6.95 x1 or x2 for two CCs, for the HD package, which is charged per outlet. If it's not duplicate service, the charges are a little different. In that case, they charge you for your packages + a CC rental fee, I think.

    -David
     
  2. s2krazy

    s2krazy New Member

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    David,
    Thanks for the detailed reply, it was far more than expected. I just called Oceanic and the rep I spoke with Nicole and she said I'll be replacing my 7.95 cable box rental with a single 3.10 rental for the cablecard. I specifically asked if there was a price difference for a multistream card and she said no. I am skeptical, but will take it at face value. She also said I'll need a one time $32 installation fee. It seems that dropping my phone line is costing me a lot more money than I had ever imagined....
     
  3. s2krazy

    s2krazy New Member

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    BTW, when I was scheduling my installation, I asked the rep about the tuning adapter and he knew exactly what I was talking about. When I asked if he had seen it, he said yes, it looks like a router with a simple 'cable in' and 'cable out' and a power adapter. His opinion was January deployment.
     
  4. s1_junkie

    s1_junkie New Member

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    Well it looks like OTW were simply trying to jerk my chain.

    I recieved a second call which I was here to answer, "would I like a STB?", "no thank you". Oh and, Showtime is not going away at all, Encore will go away "next week".

    Sounds like Icarus got the same call as my first one; I dont know who plans this strategy, but the word clueless comes to mind.

    (Icarus: I'm on the Big Island).

    Off topic but since Icarus pointed it out: I tried Netflix streaming yesterday, works well: approx SD quality with no blocking or breakup of video. Bad news is (unlike Amazon) Netflix does not really use the TiVo UI: Netflix queue is not located in "now playing" but found by selecting Netflix; and play/pause etc. are Netflix graphics not TiVo. The good news is (unlike Amazon) there is a reasonable selection and the web site is great. And its free for first 2 weeks.
     
  5. dreamwish

    dreamwish New Member

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    Oceanic now has an SDV page on their Televisions section of their web site.

    That SDV page has a link to a form to add yourself to the Tuning Adapter waiting list!
     
  6. Icarus

    Icarus Member

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    I lost 5 HD channels the other day, but I have no idea if it's SDV related or not. There's a few I've never gotten on my S3, like MaxHD, Disney HD, 1000.

    These are the channels I lost: UHD, SCIHD, Animal Planet HD, TLCHD, and PLDHD.

    All the channels come 1n on the OTW HD DVR in the living room.

    Of course, they sent out a tech. The first thing she said is that cable cards are being phased out, so you know where that went. Her supervisor insisted that SDV is active here, but the people I spoke to in the office said it isn't active. When asked for the list of which channels are on SDV now, he pretty much started rattling off the entire list from the letters we've received. They are really clueless about all of this.

    Just another day at OTW, I guess.

    -David
     
  7. bueller555

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    I pulled the trigger and just ordered my Tivo HD from Amazon. I hope that I didn't make a mistake, but in researching this SDV issue, the major network channels will remain (Fox-1003, ABC-1006, etc.) The list of channels that won't be available to me can be found on this Oceanic page. Using this page, I unselected all and had it only display the channels "Not available on CableCARDs". The list is sizable, but with the exception of the HD Pack channels, I don't think that I'll really miss them. I'm looking forward to getting a Tivo and getting rid of the SA8300HD.
     
  8. Icarus

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    The updated channel listing for Kahului is pretty accurate. I'm not getting most of the channels marked as SDV now. (Some of the lower numbered channels marked as SDV are still coming in ATM, but those are garbage channels .. shopping, etc.)

    I'm not all that happy about some of the HD channels I lost, but it isn't yet that entire list they were talking about.

    -David
     
  9. bueller555

    bueller555 Member

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    :eek: I scheduled a cable card install for my Tivo for next week and the Oceanic person said that I'll lose my surf pack discount because of my switch to cable card. I'm going to call again and see if this is true or if I can trade my dvr down to a stb and drop my HD pack, but still install the cable card. In theory, I still come out ahead even if I unplug and stuff the stb into a closet. If they insist that they can't do that then I'm switching my phone and Internet back to Hawn Telcom because there would be no pricing advantage by staying with Oceanic.
     
  10. HawaiiTivoLover

    HawaiiTivoLover New Member

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    thanks for posting the links to the oceanic TA page. I hope all the fellow Oceanic customers register on that site and keep posting any progress in this forum.
     
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    Icarus

    Icarus Member

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    Well, they added 1005, K5 HD. Is anybody with a cable card getting it? It's not an SDV channel according to their lineup, but I can't get it on my S3. (It shouldn't be SDV in any case, because it's a broadcast channel.)

    I've also lost channels like 85, 87, etc on my S3, which are also not listed as SDV channels. I guess if I want to watch/record something on K5, I will have to record it from analog channel 5 now on the S3.

    All of them come in fine on the crappy OTW HD DVR in the living room, of course.

    They added several new HD cable channels, including Scifi-HD, all SDV.

    I'm going to try a restart.

    -David
     
  12. Todd B.

    Todd B. New Member

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    1005, 85, and 87 all work fine for me on my Tivo HD. I am on Oahu, though.

    I'm going to follow up with my Oceanic contact next week, since it's been a couple months since I talked to him, and still no Tuning Adapter. Although the preorder form is nice, maybe he'll be able to give me a better idea how far down the pipeline the process is.
     
  13. HawaiiTivoLover

    HawaiiTivoLover New Member

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    please keep us informed on any news and/or info you get
    aloha
     
  14. Todd B.

    Todd B. New Member

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    Talked to the Oceanic guy. He said they are working out some of the final details. It's close, but not quite there yet. He knows that it's taking a little longer than we'd like, but he said they really are getting close now.

    He did confirm that they're going to require a truck roll to install.

    And I'd recommend that if you haven't already signed up on the pre-order form that you should go ahead and do that.

    http://www.oceanic.com/OceanicWebApps/Television/SDV/sdv.html
     
  15. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    That is precisely what several people from TWC told me when I inquired about the TA, but when they actually deployed them this monday, we were told to pick them up ourselves at one of two different TWC offices. I picked up 3 and installed them. There was a city-wide problem on 2 channels, whihc was fixed on Tuesday, and since then we've been golden. OF course this does not mean Oceanic will follow suit, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do. Installation and activation of the TA is simple.
     
  16. ciper

    ciper New Member

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    From my understanding of the cable system the TA can be pre-authorized on the network just like a cable modem or cable box so there is no reason a tech needs to be onsite.

    Are they going to be charging for these truck rolls?
     
  17. Todd B.

    Todd B. New Member

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    I'm not sure who you talked to in your location, but if it was CSR-level type people, then it's not surprising that they might have been mis-informed. If you didn't see my earlier post, this guy I'm talking to is the actual guy who is doing all the technical work to test and deploy the TA's, so I'm assuming he's a little more in the loop as to how they're going to deploy. Obviously, I would love it if they did self-install. Maybe they'll be doing truck rolls for the first batch, and then change to self-install once they've gotten all the bugs worked out and realize they don't need to truck roll it.

    Unfortunately, I did not ask about that. I guess I assumed that since the TA is free, there wouldn't be any charge for the truck roll, but that's a baseless assumption, especially with Oceanic.
     
  18. HawaiiTivoLover

    HawaiiTivoLover New Member

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    Wow, it feels like were getting closer to actually having a functioning S3/HDTivo again in Hawaii. so happy
     
  19. clark_kent

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    So, our analog to digital cutover has come and gone, and all is well in the O$eanic land of Paradi$e.

    But, wait a minute, I had though that the point of going to all digital was to free up all that analog bandwidth so we can have more digital, and in particular, more HD cable channels. You know, more PPV, more OD/iND, more Pizza ordering, more Info, more Shopping, more Answers OD, etc, etc.

    I also thought that post "Analog Cutoff" would result in Oceanic's lineup having NO analog (frequency) channels at all, and all former analog channels would only be carried on digital (QAM frequency) channels.

    Well, it looks like the old analog channels are all still there, on analog frequencies.

    Does anyone have any thoughts as to why Oceanic would still continue to carry all the old analog channels on analog frequencies?

    I wonder if Comcast and the other Time Warner markets are going to be doing the same thing when they cut over?
     
  20. cableguy763

    cableguy763 New Member

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    Cable co's have to continue to carry analog cable until 2012.
     

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