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Tuners 5 and 6 Not Authorized

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by speedy2, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. May 3, 2014 #1061 of 1187
    dkraft

    dkraft New Member

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    I decided since my 6 tuner Roamio was only using 4 tuners and the 4 was not reliable, I would replace the cable card. I have replaced the cable card. I was excited when the cable card started to update. No luck, it did not update to 1.5.3. All 6 tuners appear to be working ok. I figure I'll just keep all 6 tuners on even if some of them fail at times. Why limit to 4 tuners if they are not reliable. I might have better odds with 6 maybes than 4 maybes. At least when Xfinity On Demand started I could watch the missed shows, but Xfinity On Demand has not worked for the last few days. There is a separate thread on that. Maybe this cable card will work perfect.
     
  2. May 4, 2014 #1062 of 1187
    dkraft

    dkraft New Member

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    Update. While watching a channel the tuner suddenly stopped showing picture and popped up a message about not being authorized. It was tuner number 4. Just checked the TiVo Support site and this is listed on their site.
    >>>>>>>>>
    The following CableCARD firmware versions are capable of handling six tuners:

    Motorola CableCARDs-version 2.65 or later
    Cisco/Scientific Atlanta CableCARDs-OS Ver: PKEY1.5.2.2801 or later
    >>>>>>>>>>>

    I have version 1.5.2_F.p.3001
     
  3. May 4, 2014 #1063 of 1187
    CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    There are possible other reasons for what you saw. I'm not saying you don't have a problem, but this itself is not yet firm evidence for a cablecard problem.

    If a Suggestion or Wishlist starts to record on some channel you don't get, the cablecard card screen will pop up, even though the screen is completely unrelated to the tuner you are watching now. This has been the behavior of TiVos since day one of cablecards. This can happen (and every few months it happens for me) even if you have perfectly functioning cablecards.
     
  4. May 4, 2014 #1064 of 1187
    pshivers

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    You need firmware release _153.1101
     
  5. May 4, 2014 #1065 of 1187
    dkraft

    dkraft New Member

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    The channel stopped displaying the video and stopped tuning the channel I was watching. No other channels were recording or changed.

    I have also found this n TiVo Support.
    >>>>>>>>>
    The other reason you might not be able to use all 6 tuners is a software bug that impacts copy-protected material. When you view or record a copy-protected program, your CableCARD might go into a state where it can only support 5 tuners. You will be able to use all 6 tuners when you finish watching or recording the copy-protected content.
    >>>>>>>>>>€

    I have now changed to 5 tuners. I'll let you know how it works out.
     
  6. May 4, 2014 #1066 of 1187
    dkraft

    dkraft New Member

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    I have read where some people have called Comcast and have had Comcast push a cable card update. I have had no luck finding the information on how they got comcast to update their cable card.
     
  7. May 4, 2014 #1067 of 1187
    CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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  8. May 6, 2014 #1068 of 1187
    boblip11

    boblip11 New Member

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    Just an FYI... This morning while watching Live TV on my Roamio, Comcast updated my cable card to 1.5.3.1011. This was not at my request, so the rollout is happening automatically in some areas. I am in Clinton, CT
     
  9. May 9, 2014 #1069 of 1187
    pauljb55

    pauljb55 Now in Miami Beach

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    What makes it so difficult to update firmware/why does it take so much time to roll out? Are the head ends in each market different?
     
  10. May 9, 2014 #1070 of 1187
    pshivers

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    Just a guess on my part, but I'd say the biggest roadblock to firmware upgrade roll outs is internal politics at the cable company...
     
  11. May 9, 2014 #1071 of 1187
    aridon

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    Each individual market is almost like its own entity.
     
  12. bmgoodman

    bmgoodman Member

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    Thanks to CrispyCritter, my FCC complaint got my firmware upgrade pretty quickly! :up::up::up:

    He did a search on Tivo Roamio in his help system and found a Comcast document that says a firmware upgrade is required. But he noted that it failed to link to any information on how the tech should proceed to *get* said upgrade. He said he was going to escalate the issue to have a link added. So *maybe* some of the rest of you will benefit.
     
  13. pshivers

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    I love it when complaining to a huge government bureaucracy actually nets desired results! 3 for 3 that I know of from this thread...
     
  14. c_tripps_2k

    c_tripps_2k Member

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    Took me 5 cable cards, 1000 minutes, numerous calls to comcast and TiVo, 2 emails and a written letter to comcast CEO, a complaint to BBB, and FCC.

    Comcast=:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
     
  15. Pejota

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    Just posting to say that, with no action on my part, I was upgraded to 1.5.3_F.p.1201 on Comcast here in Celebration, Florida two days ago. This comes after just getting 1.5.2_F.p.3001 back in February, again without contacting anyone.

    Happy to report no issues with all six tuners.
     
  16. jwbelcher

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    Let us know how 1201 goes. That's the first I've seen of it (unless its a typo).
     
  17. clintavila

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    I have been going round and round with Delerie Magee from Comcast Cares for 3months! It's become very clear they (Comcast) DO NOT care. Email after email after email for 3 months! Each time promising that she will find out how to get me the firmware upgrade and apologizing while I read about others who got a phone call within 24 hours of emailing Comcast Cares along with their firmware upgrade. And to pour salt on the wound even a customer in my area of Houston managed to get the upgrade in 24 hours. I reached out yet again and she is no longer responding to my emails.

    How is it that cell phone companies can roll out entire new operating systems (Apple/Android) to millions of customers in a month?! Yet Comcast who has had this firmware since June of 2013 can't manage to push this fix to a comparably tiny group of TiVo users?!! WTF? Obviously they couldn't care less if TiVo users have fully functioning systems. In fact, the last time I had a technician to my home he was quick to say that Comcast would no longer be supporting cable cards and that's why there are no "new" cable cards. They can't legally do that yet someone is telling their techs this information. And even worse he stated "why would you want a TiVo? The X1 from Comcast is what I should have as it's a superior system." I think the look of disgust on my face was very clear b/c he changed the subject.

    This is exactly why allowing Comcast to takeover Time Warner would be a horrible thing. It's clear customer service is not a priority. They lie. They misinform. From the top brass at Comcast Cares to the phone people to the technicians that come to my home. None of them have a clue. A year later and nothing has changed. If it were not for these forums, TiVo users would have no idea that a firmware upgrade is the reason for all this misery. Comcast is the worst!!
     
  18. Pejota

    Pejota New Member

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    It's definitely 1201, with a build date of 3/12/14. So far it's been smooth sailing.
     
  19. jwbelcher

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    Great to hear! Definitely the latest version to-date. Comcast did have copy protection issues with 1101 on non-TiVo boxes which stalled the roll-out. Maybe this rev will close out those areas still stuck on 1.5.2.
     
  20. Jun 2, 2014 #1080 of 1187
    bmgoodman

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    I'll do for you what another forum user did for me, which is recommend you file a complaint with the FCC. My months of runaround quickly turned into Comcast calling and calling ME to talk about upgrading my firmware, rather than the other way around! I think it was under 2 weeks from their first response to my complaint until they upgraded me. (And most of that was my delay in getting back to them!)

    Look back in this thread for my other posts for what might be helpful information in your case.
     

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