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TTG & MRV Coming in November for Series3 & TiVoHD

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by TiVoPony, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. Sep 6, 2007 #21 of 743

    kmill14 New Member

    Dec 11, 2006
    Wasn't part of the hold-up something to do with CableLabs? Can we assume if this finally went thru, that CableCards and the new "dongle" might be on the way as well?
  2. Sep 6, 2007 #22 of 743
    Gene S

    Gene S New Member

    Feb 10, 2003
    Belleville, IL
    Great news!! When enabled I can get rid of my monthly S2 and get a T-HD to go along with my S3!!
  3. Sep 6, 2007 #23 of 743

    cwoody222 Active Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    They're "working on it" ;)

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Pony... can you confirm whether Mac users will be left out of all the fun or not? Even if you don't officially support it will we be able to do what we can with S2s in terms of browsings to the Now Playing list and manually downloading the files?
  4. Sep 6, 2007 #24 of 743

    LoREvanescence Always Autocorrected

    Jun 19, 2007
    Salem, MA
    This is great news. I only wish I could use networking on my Tivo though=\. My university's firewall blocks its access to the network and tivo tells me it cannot find a dctp server.
  5. Sep 6, 2007 #25 of 743

    mazman Member

    Nov 13, 2002
    Alamo, CA
    Can you provide the link to update/signup for beta testing?
  6. Sep 6, 2007 #26 of 743

    mattack Active Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    But you can transfer a show from Tivo -> computer (hopefully Mac as others have requested) -> Tivo, and it will be unrecognizeable from the original recording, right?

    i.e. it won't have the computer icon..? There are times I'd use a computer as offline storage if I could then dump it back to the Tivo. (I've only had S1s previously.. now I have an S3 and would use this for this purpose..)
  7. Sep 6, 2007 #27 of 743

    BlackBetty I

    Nov 5, 2004
    whats the latest on eSata? That is the final link now. Would be awesome for TiVo to list these features.....MRV, TTG, and eSata expansion in time for the Holiday season.
  8. Sep 6, 2007 #28 of 743

    navman New Member

    Aug 10, 2007
    I second blackbetty, what about esata?
  9. Sep 6, 2007 #29 of 743

    bedelman Call me Bob

    Feb 26, 2001
    I would think that the protocol used by the "hidden" video tab found within the TiVo Desktop for Mac OSX preference pane will be compatible.

    I wonder if other applications like TiVo.NET will work (which I use mostly with my Macs)
  10. Sep 6, 2007 #30 of 743

    dtphonehome Member

    Dec 26, 2006
    I second that...I would also like to know what I'll be able to transfer. And if I can use a Mac to do it! Maybe a new iPod touch is in the cards!
  11. Sep 6, 2007 #31 of 743

    brianlees New Member

    Apr 16, 2007
    I think people are finally going to see how many shows are flagged as no copy or copy once (which was all agree sounds like won't be copyable between units). Once they do, I think they are going to be po'd.

    I wish Tivo would support streaming between units ala Sling. That would eliminate this issue. HD Tivos have ethernet and wireless N (via USB add-on) is easily capable as well. But, alas, I'm sure it has been talked about here many times and I'm guessing it will never come.

    I also wish I wouldn't be treated as a criminal by the media companies. I don't do bittorrent, I own all the songs on my iPod...why can't I watch a show I recorded on another device in my house. Ugh. *rant complete*
  12. Sep 6, 2007 #32 of 743

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    Hurrah! And please thank development for the hard work.

  13. Sep 7, 2007 #33 of 743

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    I believe this info is already available in the Info screen for a program unless I am mistaken.
  14. Sep 7, 2007 #34 of 743

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Twin Cities...
    Excellent, Excellent, Excellent.

    A great news day for TiVo.

    I was going to ask about Rhapsody, but I'll start asking more about that tomorrow :)
  15. Sep 7, 2007 #35 of 743

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    Twin Cities...
    What's a dctp server? Do you mean DHCP server? Do you have a router connected between your dorm room ethernet jack and your TiVo? Your TiVo should be getting it's ip address from your router first, then going out from there.
  16. Sep 7, 2007 #36 of 743

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

    Jul 10, 2004
    San Diego,...
    You are correct. If you go to the program information dialog for a saved recording and hit the INFO button, you get a dialog labelled "Program Details". There will be sections for "Title", "Episode Title" and "Content Rating", and if the recording is copy protected, those will be followed by a section labeled "Restrictions" which will read:
    (The way it's worded and punctuated, it looks as if there could be something else where "Cannot be transferred..." is, but I've never seen anything else).

    There's no way for over-the-air content to be marked as protected (the dread Broadcast Flag was about marking OTA for some limited protection, but the legislation was repealed and has not been reincarnated). FCC regulations do not allow anything in the core basic cable tier to be copy protected at all; FCC regs also require that all rebroadcast of over-the-air channels be positioned in the core basic tier, so network HDTV cannot be copy protected. Anything outside of the core basic tier (expanded basic and premium subscription channels) can be marked for copy protection, but won't necessarily be. Looking at the stuff on my S3 right now, the recordings from Showtime, HBO and TNT (movies, Californication, Dexter, The Closer) are all copy protected; a recording of the US Open Tennis Championships from Universal HD isn't, nor are a couple of things from the Sci Fi Channel.
  17. Sep 7, 2007 #37 of 743

    jaydfwtx New Member

    Jan 4, 2007
    Just wanted to add my voice for getting Mac support. :D
  18. Sep 7, 2007 #38 of 743

    alansplace ------ Alan ------

    Apr 30, 2006
    :D :D :D
    Alan :D
  19. Sep 7, 2007 #39 of 743

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

    Jul 10, 2004
    San Diego,...
    Curious, I just played around a little with recording what's showing now on my local cable system (my provider is North San Diego County Cox). NFL Yearbook on ESPN2 HD was protected, but Baseball Tonight on ESPN HD wasn't. Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag (a documentary) on MOJO was not protected, but Man-Made on National Geographic HD was. Red Hot Chili Peppers Live In Milan on MTV HD was not protected, The Thomas Crown Affair on TNT HD was. Sharkman (documentary) on Discovery HD Theater was not protected, but CSI: Miami on A&E HD was.

    It's not clear whether these protections are on a program-by-program basis or whether whole channels are set protected; I suspect the latter, and things might not be set up the way that they intended (ESPN2 HD being protected while ESPN HD is not seems suspicious). Doubtless, the way protections are set will vary wildly by cable provider.
  20. Sep 7, 2007 #40 of 743

    SnakeEyes Active Member

    Dec 26, 2000
    Mac support?

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