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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bdraw, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. SnakeEyes

    SnakeEyes Active Member

    Dec 26, 2000
    Some of my HD recordings play at what appears to be sorta 2x FF, for instance Enterprise on HDNet. I have a TiVoHD and a Macmini core duo. The audio and video is there just sped up
  2. naclone

    naclone New Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    I'm a little rusty on TTG and TTCB since I haven't been using since getting the S3 a year ago. Back then I was converting avi files to mpg2 and uploading them to my S2. Just wanted to doublecheck that was the same procedure for S3 or is there another(better?) format I should be converting to?

    Also, I understand that we cannot TTCB HD content that did not originate as an S3 recording. Any thoughts on the best way to maximize PQ when converting HD files for uploading via TTCB?

    Any help greatly appreciated.

  3. PPC1

    PPC1 New Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    I set up TTG for my S3. The TiVo desktop correctly loaded all of my programs in "Now Playing." I attempted to transfer two network HD recordings to my computer, Heroes and Journeyman, just to try it out.

    The transfers started fine, but they each stopped transfering before the shows had been completely transfered. I tried transfering Heroes multiple times, but every time, it stops transfering at the same point. I know this episode was recorded in its entirety, as I watched on my S3. On the select programs to transfer menue, it showed the recording as a full 1:02 duration recording. I tried transfering Journeyman again, but again it stopped, and I think at the exact same point as the prior transfer of Journeyman. However, less of the program was transfered than was of Hereos.

    Any ideas why the transfers keep stopping at exactly the same point? I suppose I need to test by transfering shows from other networks, and non-hd digital material, as well as analog to further trouble shoot.
  4. RoyK

    RoyK New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    SW VA
    Don't shoot me for suggesting this but are you sure your PC's HD is NTFS and not Fat32? I got bitten by a similar situation due to the 4gb FAT32 file size limitation.

    Edit: in my case I was transferring something to a USB hard drive - hence FAT32
  5. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Are there any noticeable glitches during playback at the points it's stopping? When transferring to your PC the Tivo is converting the stream to .TiVo format so I suspect glitches in the recording are causing problems. Of course check what RoyK just said above too first...
  6. PPC1

    PPC1 New Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    That is one of my hypotheses. Interesting thought to check the recording where it keeps cutting off. I didn't notice anything while watching Heroes, but the point where the transfer cuts off is during a comercial, which I had skipped through while watching. Otherwise though, the recording seemed great.

    I haven't watched Journeyman, so I don't know about that either.

    Hopefully though the ability to transfer is not so fragile that a minor hiccup in the recording will systematically prevent successful transfers.
  7. yunlin12

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

    Mar 14, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    It took a few tries to get TivoDesktop to see the shows on my S3, the 1st time it did 1 of 256, 11 of 256, 41 and 256, then errored out, the second time it wen through 1, 11, 41, then errored out after 91/256, the next time it stopped on 191, then the next time it succeeded. I didn't restart TivoDesktop in between.

    Now it's transferring 5 shows, and it's blazing fast. I'm on a wired network, 30 min (The Daily Show) is about 590MB from Comcast, and it looks like it'll transfer in 8 minutes, but so far 2 shows I tried to transfer, one ended after 510MB, another one ended after 530MB. When I play them in WMP (Vista, WMP 11), WMP's only shows about 9 min of show. When I drag the progress bar of WMP all the way to the end, it continues to play past that point. Based on the file size, there are more shows that WMP is showing as 9 min, but I can not easily access it in WMP and check where it ends. Has anyone else seen this?

    Edit: After playing one through, it seems that the show transfered OK, it's just the file size is smaller than what the S3 reported.
  8. PPC1

    PPC1 New Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    Was that addressed to my issue? If so why would I shoot you? I am not sure which, nor do I know how to check. I don't think that explains the situation though, as I had not transfered 4gb of data. More like 781 MB for Heroes, and 400 ish for Journeyman.
  9. azitnay

    azitnay Active Member

    Jan 20, 2003
    Doesn't sound like FAT32 is your issue with those file sizes... But to check which filesystem you're using:

    1) Open up My Computer
    2) Right-click C: (or whatever drive you're using) and choose Properties
    3) Look for "File system: NTFS" or "File system: FAT32"

  10. Hyrax

    Hyrax New Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    I am always amazed at how much smaller a HD show is when it is recorded via cable as opposed to being recorded OTA. Last Sunday's Patriots game was 12.5 Mbps from cable and 18.1 Mbps over the air.

    I have been known to ***** endlessly <wife yawning in the background> about this fact, but today I get a chance to laugh at myself. It turns out to be a good thing when you want to archive shows! With TTG it takes about 2/3rds of the time to transfer a recording from a cable source than it does from an OTA source. And it really doesn't look all that bad on a small, 50" TV (of course they look terrible on a 100" screen).

    Perhaps we should be thanking Comcast instead of damning them ;)
  11. Hyrax

    Hyrax New Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    Where do I find out how to use TioToComeback? I want to try it out, but cannot find any guides for it anywhere.
  12. pkscout

    pkscout Active Member

    Jan 10, 2003
    Honolulu, HI
    Here's a link to the fourm specifically for MRV and TiVoToGo. You might check there for some answers.

  13. Hyrax

    Hyrax New Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    Thanks, PK.
  14. Dajad

    Dajad New Member

    Oct 7, 1999
    Yupp, I'm seeing the exact same thing and getting the same error after 91 of 173 shows from my S3.

    But, this is not just a problem on my s3.

    Transferring from the S2 used to work fine but now when I tested it today it crapped out at 91 of 178.

    And I have to shut down and restart my TiVo Desktop before it will allow me to attempt to do it again.


    TiVo-to-Comeback Transfers from my PC to the S3 ans S2 are still working fine though.

    [Update: I just turned on my S3 and it had the Upgrade Notice saying I just received 9.2. After accepting the message, allowing the reboot to occur (THX screen et. al) it seems to be working fine now. But I am still having problems with the S2]

    [Update 2: After a few more tries it now works with my S2, but even after working, I left the screen open for awhile and worked on something else and then it spontaneously crashed (giving the same error screen as above) just while sitting on the transfer screen with nothing transferring - seems to really be hit and miss as to whether TiVo Desktop can properly populate the transfer screen and then maintain it on either TiVo.]
  15. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

    Dec 4, 2001
    Ferndale, MI
    Can anyone tell me what would make a decent video editor for downloads from an S3? I'd prefer frame accurate editing (which I hear VideoReDo doesn't have), but it's not crucial.
  16. joewmaki

    joewmaki New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    I find VideoReDo very easy to use. I "thought" it was frame accurate. You can at least navigate by frame.
  17. Dajad

    Dajad New Member

    Oct 7, 1999
    The TiVo Home Media forum is a better place for that kind of question:


  18. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

    Jul 10, 2004
    San Diego,...
    The main TiVo Desktop UI gives two selections in a lefthand pane, being "TiVo Recordings" and "Publish Media". If you select "Publish Media" you'll get 3 tabs, "Music", "Photos" and "Videos". If you select the "Video" tab, it will briefly explain how to set up to transfer videos to TiVo.

    Basically, you just put it in the video files in the "My Documents\My TiVo Recordings" directory, which is where files that you transfer from TiVo to your computer will be placed by default. If the files are someplace else, you can place a shortcut to that directory in My TiVo Recordings. To get them to the TiVo, you just go to its Now Playing list and select the entry with your PC's name and it will list the videos in that directory (for any of them that are .tivo files, you'll get all the information for them that was saved for them originally by TiVo).

    I don't know exactly which file formats are supported by the free TiVo Desktop; it lists the following on the Publish Video tab:
    • Windows Media Video (.wmv)
    • Quicktime MOvie (.mov)
    • MPEG-4/H.264 (.mp4,.m4v,.mp4v)
    • MPEG-2 (.mpg,.mpeg,.mpe,.mp2,.mp2v,.mpv2)
    • DivX or XviD (.avi,.divx)
    However, I suspect that some or all of these formats require transcoding and that that will require you to upgrade to TiVo Desktop Plus at a cost of $24.95. (To upgrade, see the option on the TiVo Desktop help menu).
  19. Dajad

    Dajad New Member

    Oct 7, 1999
    Well, this is all off-topic but interesting, last night's OTA "Fight or Flight" Hero's broadcasted from Niagra Falls New York was 6.82 GB on my S3. The prior week's "The Kindess of Strangers" episode was 6.86 GB.

  20. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Active Member

    Nov 13, 1999
    Buffalo, NY
    ... from WGRZ in Buffalo?

    /waves :)

    You're picking up Buffalo stations in Toronto? Cool!

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