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Trying to understand the value of built-in WiFi

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TBoyd, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. tvn

    tvn New Member

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    That's my question. Of course I have a wireless router.
     
  2. seattlewendell

    seattlewendell New Member

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    What a really dumb thing to say. Tivo requires an internet connection to work. Since day one there have always been threads about getting a hard wire to the Tivo. There were entire threads about people bringing their box to a neighbors house for it to dial in (back in the phone jack days). Increasingly people do not have hardwire network connections near their Tivos. Tivo wifi adapters still cost more than $50. Putting wifi into a Tivo is cheap as you pointed out. Tivo is artificially increasing the cost of the box to the consumer by $50-$150 by requiring you to supply either a MOCA or WiFI adapter. The only 12 year olds, are ones running Tivo who took this long to add WiFi and their apologist.
     
  3. Philmatic

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    It will remain to be seen if the new TiVo bridge MoCA/Ethernet & Wireless together passively. We know that MoCA & Ethernet are bridged by default, but Wireless would provide a whole new useful feature.

    My *hunch* is that it is not, but we will see when people start receiving them tomorrow.
     
  4. mchief

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    Another question. If I buy a Plus and keep one of my HDs will I be able to transfer shows between the two. Both on ethernet
     
  5. Philmatic

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    If you can transfer them now, yes. This assumes that the copy bit has not been set for those recording.

    You CANNOT stream across the two, simply because the TiVo HD never got that capability.
     
  6. mchief

    mchief Morey

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    Thanks, no copy bit to fool with on non-premium channels.
     
  7. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    The Wifi could provide internet to a MoCA-connected network of a Roamio, Premieres, and Minis. I'd rather have it hardwired, but it might work OK in certain situations. And OP, how the heck do you not have a Wifi router? That's been standard since laptops came around, and now smartphones and tablets that don't even have an OPTION for ethernet.
     
  8. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Theoretically yes, but I have not been able to transfer shows TO my TivoHD from my Premiere 4 for quite a while now. *Originally*, it was only being unable to transfer from paused point. Nowadays, it seems like I can't transfer at all. I have rebooted both several times.

    I wrote up a problem at the official Tivo forums, and am going to update it
    http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/forums/displaypost?postID=11101307
     
  9. consumedsoul

    consumedsoul Member

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    Been using Roamio Basic (wireless) for a few days with Stream, transfer to my iPad has been about the same (in some cases faster oddly, testing with 1 hr shows) as my old Premier (wired/ethernet).

    Glad to not have a cable going across the hallway now. :)
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Does anyone know... Can the TiVo be used as an access point for other wifi devices and bridge the connection to MoCa or Ethernet? My TV has something like this, but it only works when it's on so I still use a standalone AP. But the TiVo is always on so it might actually make a good AP.
     
  11. jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

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    I don't remember seeing any place where an SSID could be set, but will check tomorrow.
     
  12. grey ghost

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    If my Plus has a Ethernet connection, can I link it with a Mini using MoCA with the Plus acting as the MoCA starting point?
     
  13. GoHokies!

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  14. XIBM

    XIBM New Member

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    Isn't wired always going to be faster than wireless? Don't all the internet apps (Netflix etc) have to go across either a wired or wireless internet connection? If it is available and not to difficult to set up wired seems to be the best.?
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    For the streaming services, as long as the WiFi network doesn't have issues there should be no difference. All of the streaming services have low bandwidth streams. At least this is the case with my other streaming devices and WiFI. Whether connected wirelessly or wired, playing 2D, Super HD, or 3D content, the experience has been identical for me.
     
  16. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah most of the streaming services max out at 12Mbps even for their best HD, so wifi should be fine. Although if you have several people all watching at once and a super high speed internet connection then you might run up against the wifi limit.
     

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