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Trying to understand the value of built-in WiFi

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TBoyd, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. TBoyd

    TBoyd Less Cable, More Net

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    Unless I'm a non-technical user that has NO wireless router in their house, what is the value of built-in WiFi in the new Roamio units? Doesn't seem to be a benefit for tablet or smartphone as remotes or viewing.

    Possibly...

    - Enables quicker transfers between Roamio <-> Roamio/Mini/Stream units around the house?
    - Just removes requirement for Ethernet cable in config? (Tivo <-> Router)

    What am I missing here?

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
  2. waterchange

    waterchange Member

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    For those who don't have hardwired ethernet ports in their house, a Roamio could use this connection to download guide data & updates via your wireless network without requiring you to purchase a separate wifi adapter.
     
  3. zundian

    zundian New Member

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    Yeah, it's not that it's providing Wi-fi, it's that you don't need to buy an adapter as with older units.
     
  4. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Minimal - with MOCA available it makes little sense to add it, so much functionality is unsupported with WIFI...

    But the 12 year olds on the tech blogs keep bitching about it - so it was probably a cheap add.
     
  5. TBoyd

    TBoyd Less Cable, More Net

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    OK, Thanks all!
     
  6. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    MOCA still requires you add another adapter to your setup (unless you already have MOCA connectivity for your internet, of course). For someone who isn't going to care about live streaming between TiVo devices, WiFi is an easy solution, and while it may not be universal, it is easily available to most anybody, probably for less than the cost of a MOCA adapter and usually less costly than it would take to install in-wall wiring. And possibly even cheaper for many people than buying wiring and just laying it on the floor. :)
     
  7. tivogurl

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    That's basically how I'll use it. My current TiVo has a hardwired connection to my router, which would be nice to get rid of. Besides, guide data & updates don't really need the extra speed.

    Does TiVo use WiFi Protected Setup for the builtin WiFi? I'd hate to have to type in my router's WPA2 password using TiVo's clunky interface.
     
  8. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Well-Known Member

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    It supports security standards, yes. The password only needs to be plugged in once.
     
  9. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

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    So it doesn't support WPS. The whole point of WPS is that you don't need to type in the password.
     
  10. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I always tpye in the password. I never use WPS on devices that have it. That is one of the features I've always disabled in my routers.
     
  11. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

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    Why would it be nice to get rid of your hard wired connection?

    Unless you plan on moving your router or something then I can see it I guess.

    But as far as streaming to an ipad goes it would be better I think to keep the Tivo hard wired. Otherwise you are using twice the wireless bandwidth to stream something. Wireless bandwidth is not always in great supply. Not that this is an application you care about.
     
  12. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

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    But obviously the built-in wifi is for guide data for anyone without a router or ethernet network next to their Tivo which I would assume is the majority of consumers. It makes your Tivo ready to go out of the box.

    wifi direct also a possibility ( without knowing if the included chipset actually supports this or not.) But if so then you would get more latency-free control of your tivo via a mobile device than you can now.
     
  13. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

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    Less clutter. Fewer wires to route, untangle, and get horribly dusty. I have a 1-bd apartment so streaming isn't an important consideration.
     
  14. lessd

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    Can you bridge the Moca with the built in Wireless like I do now with a RJ45 and Moca on the TP-4, saves buying a Moca adapter.
     
  15. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

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    Oh sorry were you running a cable across a room or something? I forgot that is an obvious reason to get rid of a hard wired connection. I had a few wires running across a room when I moved to my new place until I wired my house for cat6. I just imagine I would connect a long wire once a week overnight to my Tivo instead of buying a Tivo wifi adapter. ;)

    I mean otherwise would clutter really be reduced by having 1 less wire when you have to have at least 2 wires as it is? ;)
     
  16. tvn

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    Great point. I needed a MOCA adapter near my router for the P XL4 in the other room (because there was no internet in my main viewing area). Since it's wireless, do I still need a MOCA adapter near my router or does the wireless take care of that?
     
  17. Philmatic

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    If you don't have a Wireless router then built in Wireless doesn't benefit you at all.
     
  18. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

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    Not substantially, I suppose.
     
  19. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

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    Confuscious says ......
     
  20. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

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    Great point. I needed a MOCA adapter near my router for the P XL4 in the other room (because there was no internet in my main viewing area). Since it's wireless, do I still need a MOCA adapter near my router or does the wireless take care of that?

    I am assuming that he has a wireless router, my question is can you bridge the wireless with the Moca that built in the Roamio.

    Can we use R-4, R-6, R-6pro when talking about the Series 5 Roamio ??
     

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