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True Detectives on HBO Season 1 - Spoilers

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mr.unnatural, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Jan 30, 2014 #81 of 340
    KenDC

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    Yes, these are both true and don't upset me since I knew it going in.

    That being said, each season will be treated differently by me as well. If the next cast doesn't do it for me, I see no reason to stay. I feel the next cast will have a hard time living up to this one.
     
  2. Jan 30, 2014 #82 of 340
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    Really.....I guess these forums are to discuss what we want about the shows, but geez........aren't there a LOT of other ways to get video and pic of boobies and everything else? Sounds like a bunch of 13 year old boys getting their ya-ya's out talking about the nudity, what nudity, which parts, how often, how clear , was it really her, etc. etc.

    Sorry about the rant...it's sometimes just so annoying that with all that's going on in the show, the nudity itself (not the dynamics of the sexual relationships and their relationships to the characters) is what gets focused on.......
     
  3. Jan 30, 2014 #83 of 340
    KenDC

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    That's fine. I am often accused of acting like a 13 year old boy.

    Anyway, what did you think of the show?

    As someone that is not religious I kind of enjoy MM outspoken offense of religion and the people who follow that path, coming from a main character in a good story. Even though it really doesn't have anything to do with the murders (At least at this point) it is this banter of the good and bad about religion and it's influence on it's followers that I enjoy the most.

    I read a review in The Washington Post, I think (reviews I have seen have been mixed) that said that the writer has created speeches, mostly from MM, that are more from someone that IS writing a story and not one that would actually come out of someone's mouth. Not sure what to make of that. I will see if I can find the review and see what the peeps here think.

    Here is the review: http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...99e634-771d-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html
     
  4. Jan 30, 2014 #84 of 340
    NorthAlabama

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    my thoughts, exactly, but not stated nearly as clearly. ;)
     
  5. Jan 30, 2014 #85 of 340
    Anubys

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    I agree about the speeches. Nobody talks like that. But I guess if you never sleep and are as nuts as this guy is, maybe you practice those speeches as the thoughts whirlwind in your mind.

    I did love it when he said (not an exact quote) "the world needs bad people to keep the other bad people from the door".

    THAT was excellent and I can picture someone smart saying that off the cuff.
     
  6. Jan 30, 2014 #86 of 340
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Then again, nobody talks like anybody talks in TV shows or movies...if TV actors spoke with the ums & ers, the stops and starts, the incomplete sentences, etc., that normal people use without thinking about it, it would drive us crazy.

    All television dialogue is very stylized. Some writers just go for it more than others (Aaron Sorkin, e.g.).
     
  7. Jan 30, 2014 #87 of 340
    john4200

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    I seem to have missed your post where you tried to start a non-nudity topic of discussion and no one responded because they were too busy talking about nudity. :confused:
     
  8. Jan 30, 2014 #88 of 340
    TAsunder

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    They probably went elsewhere with that topic of discussion thinking that most people in this thread were incapable of such a conversation. I know I did. "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad" and what not.
     
  9. Jan 30, 2014 #89 of 340
    Steveknj

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    I go back and forth with this show. I thought the pilot was boring but interesting. I thought episode 2 was streets ahead of the pilot and really enjoyed it and I thought episode 3 was boring again. I get that this is a character study, but unfortunately I find much of the banter between characters pretty boring. I guess I'm in the minority though. I'm still in because the ultimate story is interesting, but I've yelled at the TV more than once, SHUT UP ALREADY and GET ON WITH IT!
     
  10. Jan 30, 2014 #90 of 340
    KenDC

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    I assume you don't like Sorkin, either? You would think he gets paid per word.

    Again, I like both and enjoy deep meaning of life conversations much more then mindless car chases or dating shows, for example.
     
  11. Jan 30, 2014 #91 of 340
    john4200

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    So, your claim is that the pessimists with poor judgment avoided making posts discussing the show without mentioning nudity, but instead made posts complaining about what other people wanted to discuss about the show. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Jan 30, 2014 #92 of 340
    TAsunder

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    Seems like good judgment to me, based on your rabid defense of the discussion of ogling nude women in a supposedly family-friendly and female-friendly forum.

    I would think of it more like, "this conversation seems inappropriate and makes me want to discuss this show elsewhere."
     
  13. Jan 30, 2014 #93 of 340
    john4200

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    Rabid defense? :D

    Some people were discussing what was shown in this program that this thread is about. If people watched the show, it is absurd to imply that discussing something that was in the show is somehow not family-friendly or female-friendly. As for the latter, I'm pretty sure that most women have seen breasts and discussed breasts, so I don't see the problem.

    If you want to censor discussion about breasts, feel free to start your own breast-free thread. I'll certainly refrain from talking about breasts in your thread (assuming it is clearly labeled).

    By the way, your continuing posts on this subject are increasing the discussion about it. If you want to minimize the discussion of breasts, then you would be better off just posting about what you do want to discuss. That would demonstrate good judgment.
     
  14. Jan 30, 2014 #94 of 340
    TAsunder

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    Yeah, I agree, you don't see the problem. I've been trying to point it out, but given your history in these threads, I am not hopeful that you specifically will get it or acknowledge it. I was hoping that others might. We shall see...
     
  15. Jan 30, 2014 #95 of 340
    john4200

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    That is because there is no problem. Except for people who believe they know better than others what is permissible for people to talk about.

    And you still haven't given us your guidelines for what you will allow us to talk about, and what you will prohibit us from talking about.

    How can we follow your rules if you don't tell us what you will permit us to do and what you will not allow us to do? :confused:
     
  16. Jan 31, 2014 #96 of 340
    Anubys

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    Granted. But some shows succeed in making it seem like normal people WOULD talk like that. Sorkin and this show do not do that. Which is ok. I like it. So I'm not complaining. I still think Deadwood is one of the top 5 shows of all time, for example.
     
  17. Jan 31, 2014 #97 of 340
    Steveknj

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    I do like Sorkin, but yeah, he gets a bit wordy as well. Part of the problem here is that I find that the characters are hard to understand as well, so I find I have to turn on CC to catch everything, so it becomes more like reading a book than a TV show, especially since there's very little going on except conversation quite often.

    I'm not a fan of mindless car chases and definitely not dating shows, but I'm also a fan of the story moving on and not some endless exposition.
     
  18. Jan 31, 2014 #98 of 340
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Right, my point is just that the people who are complaining about "unrealistic dialog" don't seem to realize that this applies to everything. It's just a question of whether the writer wants to cling to the illusion of "realistic dialog," or embrace the artificiality of it and make the most of it.

    Of course, both can work. And of course, both aren't to all tastes. But to claim that "realistic dialog" exists in TV shows is, well, unrealistic. ;)
     
  19. Jan 31, 2014 #99 of 340
    Anubys

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    I would think of the perfect retort here but for the fact that I live in the real world!
     
  20. Rob Helmerichs

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    I'm so sorry...
     

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