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Top of the Lake - Full Miniseries Discussion

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by MNoelH, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. MNoelH

    MNoelH McGruber

    Mar 17, 2005
    Houston, Texas
    Two of the three episodes have already aired (and are continuing to air on Sundance). The third will air beginning March 25th. I think it's seven episodes, but I'm not certain.

    Starring Elisabeth Moss, Holly Hunter, Matt Mitcham, Al Parker, and Thomas M. Wright.

    The scenery is breathtakingly beautiful. The mystery is intriguing. So far, I'm enjoying the ride and looking forward to the conclusion.

    Is anyone else watching? Enjoying?
  2. WhiskeyTango

    WhiskeyTango New Member

    Sep 20, 2006
    New Jersey
    I just found out about this show yesterday. I think they are replaying the first two episodes tomorrow night so it's not too late to jump in. Unfortunately I don't have Sundance in HD.
  3. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Yes, 7 episodes. I haven't watched yet but am looking forward to it. Hoping to get to the first 2 eps tonight.

    I love Holly Hunter in anything and have yet to see Elizabeth Moss in anything aside from Mad Men.
  4. ADG

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    Got through about 15 minutes of the first episode and moved on.
  5. tiams

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    I have it in my Netflix que
  6. NJ_HB


    Mar 21, 2007
    I could'nt find it in my Netflix. I'll have to set a Season Pass on TiVo and catch them there.
  7. martinp13

    martinp13 YHTBMABIITY

    Mar 19, 2001
    Fort Worth, TX
    Sounds like Twin Peaks. The show, not the restaurant. :)
  8. tiams

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    It is still in my "Saved" section.
  9. etexlady

    etexlady Active Member

    Jun 22, 2002
    East Texas
    I watched the first two episodes this afternoon. Interesting. Dark. Mysterious. I'll keep watching.
  10. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    I've also watched E01 and E02 so far. I'm going to continue watching but seriously, this is really REALLY weird! I watch stuff like Walking Dead and Dexter, not really considering them weird, but this one is pretty bizarro world. I'm intrigued, though.

    I'm not sure if I would keep watching if it were more than seven episodes, though.
  11. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Yeah, that's the one bummer. No HD Sundance here either.
  12. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Well-Known Member

    Sep 13, 2005
    Really enjoying it so far, but boy it sure is a strange show
  13. dbranco

    dbranco Member

    Nov 20, 2003
    I enjoyed the series very much, up until the last episode (2nd half of the season finale). Absolutely HATED the way this finale played out. Usually I agree with Alan Sepinwall's TV episode reviews, but I can't disagree more with his review of this finale.

    1. Huhh??? Whassup with Al (police chief) being a child molester??!! Sepinwall says:
    That [Al drugging the kids etc] fits with everything Tui had said about not knowing how she got pregnant, and doesn't feel like a cheat because Al had always been presented as a man with questionable motives (what really happened that night Robin wound up in his bed, for instance?).

    Until Al brought Matt onto the boat without telling Robin he was doing so, I NEVER had an inkling that he was anything but a "good cop". IMHO, that came so far out of left field that it completely ruined the conclusion of this story.

    2. The ladies in the field. This (to me) was just filler. What was the purpose of this part of the storyline? I found it a distraction. Sepinwall says:
    Though the scenes at Paradise with GJ and her flock at first felt like they belonged in a different show, and didn't factor into the mystery part of things, I thought they ultimately worked. Some of it is the charge of the Holly Hunter/Jane Campion reunion, and just seeing Hunter give this weird, still performance. Some of it is the way the setting allowed Campion to explore her usual areas of interest about power, gender politics, feminism, etc., but in an unconventional way.

    Sorry, I don't buy this explanation. Ok, MAYBE they contributed to the strangeness of the town, but ultimately I think they served no purpose except to distract me from the story.

    Am I glad I watched it? On the fence, but leaning towards "yes" because I was nicely entertained for some number of hours. I just wish they had concluded the story in a more satisfying manner.
  14. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Yeah, this one just got strangerer and strangerer. Extremely poor use of the massively talented Holly Hunter, IMO.

    Agree about the whole Paradise part - It didn't contribute a thing to the show.

    I'm glad it's over. Anybody going to watch their next series - Rectify?

    I also see that 'Push Girls' is coming back in June. I feel like I might be the only one who watched this show, but I enjoyed it very much. Glad there will be a Season two.
  15. Idearat

    Idearat Active Member

    Nov 26, 2000
    I enjoyed it. Seeing Elizabeth Moss in this show while she's also playing her 1960's role on Mad Men showed off her talents. ( with this one showing her body as well )

    I was pretty sure that the Al was either the father or involved about 1/2 way through the series, he was a bit too creepy with all the kids he was "helping", and too abrupt with them at the coffee shop. The meeting with Matt in the middle of the lake to accept a bundle that looked like money made him look like he was dirty. The roofies that Jamie had and Robin's mysterious blackout at Al's house hinted why Tui didn't know who the father was.

    I liked the women at Paradise, I just took them to be another of the odd group of characters in this isolated community. They were there to help Robin's mom, Tui when she ran away and and Robin when she showed up drunk and depressed.

    My only confusion was how an Australian police detective who's on vacation in N.Z could just start working there. I could see her helping out as consultant in the first episode, but she ended up working there for months. She even got fired and re-hired by the locals.
  16. DLiquid

    DLiquid Progressive User

    Sep 17, 2001
    I watched this on Netflix and thought it was fantastic. While the story was good, the main highlights for me were the acting, the cinematography, and the breathtaking scenery. It was terrible that the boy fell off a cliff to his death, but that scene was shot just beautifully. I loved how we see it from Johnno's perspective, the pursuer's perspective, and then Robin's perspective.

    I wasn't bothered by the ending at all. In fact, I thought it was rather clever, and tied in with the events much better than if Matt had been the father. Tui had no idea how she had become pregnant or who the father was, hence "no one." Brilliant. Of course, with 30 minutes left in the final episode, it became predictable that David was involved, but I really didn't suspect him strongly up until then.

    What was more strange to me is how both Robin's and Johnno's fathers "changed" toward the end, with that odd moment there when they were siblings and Robin seemed to want some forbidden love. That was just... odd.

    Holly Hunter and her clan were definitely weird too. They seemed like something out of a Tom Robbins novel, only without the humor.

    I hope Jane Campion does something else like this in the future.
  17. DLiquid

    DLiquid Progressive User

    Sep 17, 2001
    One thing that bugged me at first, but I grew to appreciate as the story went on, is how we are dropped into this world with very little backstory about the characters or their relationships. As the series progresses, we learn more, but there is no attempt to explain everything.

    Another strange thing was that this seemed like a long movie, with the episodes ending at random points of the story. All of a sudden the credits screen would just pop up, with no real "ending" to the episode. Since I watched this on Netflix, this was no big deal, since I could just move on to the next episode, but I wonder if this is how it was originally intended to air.
  18. Cainebj

    Cainebj Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2006
    New York
    I just finished the mini-series in a marathon viewing.

    Elisabeth Moss was brilliant.
    Jane Campion doing a mini-series was fantastic.

    It did recall Twin Peaks and The Killing in having a story play out with the underlying plot being a missing girl.

    The 30 minute ending made perfect sense to me -
    Something was up with Al from the beginning - his turning a blind eye to what Matt was doing made it clear he was a dirty cop - owning a 2 million dollar mansion - ignoring the death of the pedofile - tipping off Matt to do things to get rid of evidence and problems.

    Holly Hunter and the crazy commune ladies in Paradise.
    Did seem like another show but OK.

    Did we ever find out if Matt was Elisabeth Moss' biological father? Al tells the BF that Matt is not his father but they seemed to deliberately leave out her results.

    Great mini-series.
  19. Marco

    Marco Loyal Little

    Sep 19, 2000
    Capital of...
    Just finished Netflixing this.

    1. If Mat was Robin's father and thought he was Johno's father, why would he let them go to prom together? We see him being fiercely protective of his kids at other times.

    2. I get the possibility that Tui was actually roofied and raped by unknown men, including maybe Al. But if so, why did she shoot her own dad when she got the chance? For that matter, why did Tui run away at all?

    3. If Robin thinks Johno set her up to be gang-raped on prom night, why would she want to get within 50 miles of him ever again?
  20. Idearat

    Idearat Active Member

    Nov 26, 2000
    Here's my take on it.

    1: Matt wasn't Robin's father. He made that up to mess with her head.

    2: Tui shot her dad since he wanted to kill her baby. She wasn't all that fond of her dad to begin with, so it wasn't a hard choice. She ran off since her dad wouldn't have let her have it.

    3: Robin didn't know what was up with Johnno when she was being raped. When he revealed more information she started questioning everything, but likely never was convinced he was responsible.

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