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TiVoPlayList - Space Available App

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dcahoe, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. May 3, 2006 #81 of 140
    louisw

    louisw New Member

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    I recently was trying to d/l an episode of west wing that is 2.53GB, but only a small portion was d/l.

    It got to 419.872 KB and stopped. The file pays the first 9 minutes or so of the episode.
    The log says:
    TiVo1, 2006/05/03 13:46:55, The West Wing -- The Last Hurrah (Recorded 05-01-06), 419872kb, 03:44:08, 31.2kb/s

    Also previously happened with a 1.56GB File. (About 40 minutes was there)
    (TiVo1, 2006/04/20 10:33:17, The Sopranos -- Live Free or Die (Recorded 04-19-06), 1254378kb, 09:05:39, 38.3kb/s)

    (FYI- my slow speeds is due to the fact, i am doing this over the net, and the u/l speed is limited to 372kbps or so. I run the jobs overnight or a few days so by the weekend, I have a few shows)
     
  2. May 13, 2006 #82 of 140
    ducmandan

    ducmandan New Member

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    When viewed in TivoPlayList some recording will show high quality instead of best quality as shown on the tivo program info screen.

    Any Idea of the reason for the discrepency?

    Thanks,
    Dan
     
  3. May 13, 2006 #83 of 140
    CloudsBreak

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    Gettin rdy to run for first time let you know hot it goes...

    Edit : From what I have reading I can basically delete the TiVo software thing from my system and use this instead right ?
     
  4. May 13, 2006 #84 of 140
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Slower...
    No, you will need TivoDesktop installed to decrypt Tivo files. (At least you will if you want to play them back on the same computer you download them to.)
     
  5. May 13, 2006 #85 of 140
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Slower...
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3901389&&#post3901389
     
  6. May 13, 2006 #86 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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    TiVoPlayList simply calculates a quality ratio (hr/Gb) and then brackets in the different quality levels using threshold values. Some different model TiVos may compress at different rates, or different types of shows may compress at different rates (i.e. sports or cartoons). I have found the biggest variances due to the TiVo pre-allocating disk space as it records. If a show records at even 30 minute intervals, TiVo seems to pre-allocate and fill right up to the end, but if a show terminates at odd intervals (3 min, 12 min, 26 min, etc) this pre-allocated space is still part of the file and is really just wasted dead space, but the duration is accurate and thus the ratio is scewed.

    I have discussed before where the 'real' quality could be drilled down into each show and extracted, but the overhead to do this would be large for very little benefit. IMHO.

    For anyone really dying to try and get their shows listed correctly, there are some more undocumented .ini settings that can be added to the [RecorderX] section of each TiVo. These are as follows:

    BestQualityRatio=0.46
    HighQualityRatio=0.72
    MediumQualityRatio=1.0

    The program default values are shown and can be changed. For each show, TiVoPlayList will display Best if it's quality ratio is <= BestQualityRatio else it will display High if it's quality ratio is <= HighQualityRatio else it will display Medium if it's quality ratio is <= MediumQualityRatio else it will display Basic.

    From different quality ratios that different people have sent me referencing different shows, I don't think this threshold method can ever be 100%.
     
  7. May 24, 2006 #87 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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  8. Nov 22, 2006 #88 of 140
    ashu

    ashu User title defunct

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    (PEBAATA) Pre-emptive Bump to Avert Accidental Thread Archival (oh, and for extra visibility to a great app!)

    Liked that Transfer-speed experiment as well ... I'll try to repeat it with different TiVo models before I sell some of mine to cover my .... ummm, HD habit ;)
     
  9. Dec 7, 2006 #89 of 140
    jnielsen

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    Anyone know how to get the file? I have tried for several days to download from the website and it doesn't go anywhere?

    Any guidance appreciated
     
  10. Dec 7, 2006 #90 of 140
    ashu

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    I'll try to remember to host a mirror soon (if the writer doesn't mind) ... I still use this every now and then and have a copy on my media PC! I think!
     
  11. Dec 16, 2006 #91 of 140
    nickhaas33

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    TivoPlaylist is available now on Cahoe's site. I just tried it on 12/16/2006 at 8:00 central.
     
  12. Jan 14, 2007 #92 of 140
    clevindn

    clevindn New Member

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    dcahoe,

    I have a feature request.

    I would love to have TivoPlayList auto-refresh every few seconds/minutes and if a new show has started to record, get a balloon tip giving the title, subtitle, source etc. Another popup indicating that the recording has stopped would be great as well. An option to minimize TivoPlayList to taskbar would be useful for this as well.

    To see what I mean about a balloon tip, search Google images for 'balloon tip' (I'm unable to post images/links)

    What do you think about this?

    Thanks

    Jeff
     
  13. Jan 14, 2007 #93 of 140
    swinca

    swinca Menace to society

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    Jaw-ja y'all
    I downloaded this today and it's pretty cool. Thanks!
     
  14. Feb 1, 2007 #94 of 140
    special_k_29_29

    special_k_29_29 New Member

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    Does anyone have the TiVoPlayList app? I've been trying for days to get it from the developers site and it appears his FTP services is down.

    Is there another place to get the app from?

    Thanks,

    Kurt
     
  15. Feb 3, 2007 #95 of 140
    TiVo_Fanatic

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    I know the the 540 S1's we were supposed to subtract 17gb I think from our total disk size for the TiVo's overhead or whatever you called it... anyway for a 400GB drive what do i subtract for the S2 DT's overhead / pre-existing programming ?
     
  16. Feb 3, 2007 #96 of 140
    Enrique

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    anyone know were i can get this? like special_k_29_29 I can't download it from developers site.
     
  17. Feb 3, 2007 #97 of 140
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Slower...
    Looks like the link is working again.
     
  18. Feb 4, 2007 #98 of 140
    sparks

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    well I can connect to my directivo with mozilla and tytools but I can't get tivoplaylist to connect. From what I read I don't have a Media Access Key on the directivo is this correct?

    If Not how do I find out what mine is.
    I looked thru all the tivowebplus screens and I can't find anything.


    thanks for any help..
    I am just looking for something that might speed up my transfers.
    I get about 1.7mb dl.

    At one time I got up to 2.2mb using a netgear FA120 but it won't allow a connection any more so its back to the linksys and slower transfers.
     
  19. Feb 4, 2007 #99 of 140
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    sill rabbit HME type apps are for standalone TiVos only. You need to go to the underground forum to see what kind of tools you need for a hacked TiVo. most likely TiVo Web plus will do the trix for you
     
  20. Feb 4, 2007 #100 of 140
    sparks

    sparks New Member

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    thanks for the info
     

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