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TiVoPlayList - Space Available App

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dcahoe, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Mar 28, 2006 #21 of 140
    jmoak

    jmoak Beware of Conky!

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    No firewall, connecting through a simple hub.

    fwiw, I can open a browser and go to my tivo's ip addy and get:
    "Congratulations!
    You’ve successfully connected your TiVo┬« box to your home network"

    ...so I know I can get to my tivo, net-wise anyway.

    thanks for the reply!:)


    as an after thought,
    Does this app need an open internet connection for some reason? I'm just trying to access my tivo locally....
     
  2. Mar 28, 2006 #22 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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    Can either of you browse to https://x.x.x.x/nowplaying/index.html (sub your TiVo ip for the x's) and download a file from your web browser?

    Does 1 or 2 security notices pop-up when you access the web interface? Have you tried registering the security certificate?
     
  3. Mar 28, 2006 #23 of 140
    Sirshagg

    Sirshagg New Member

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    Trying to do that now. I know the password is my MAK, but can't remember what the username is.
     
  4. Mar 28, 2006 #24 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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    tivo all lower case
     
  5. Mar 28, 2006 #25 of 140
    Sirshagg

    Sirshagg New Member

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    I can download from the web browser. One security notice does apper and I just click ok on it.

    This same securrity notice comes up with tivoplaylist before the shows are displayed, but not when attempting to download them.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2006 #26 of 140
    Sirshagg

    Sirshagg New Member

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    Interesting...

    Now that I have connected using the web browser tivoplaylist will download.
     
  7. Mar 28, 2006 #27 of 140
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    most likely a DNS/WINS issue then that doing the nowplaying list filled in for the PC
     
  8. Mar 28, 2006 #28 of 140
    jmoak

    jmoak Beware of Conky!

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    Me Too!!!

    I love this thing!!!
    :)
     
  9. Mar 28, 2006 #29 of 140
    Sirshagg

    Sirshagg New Member

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    Nope, I'm using IP addresses and the now playing list (or equivalent) appeared in the app just fine. Just downloading did not.
     
  10. Mar 28, 2006 #30 of 140
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Slower...
    Just wanted to chime in to say I can't download either. I just get a .tivo file that has "<h2>Authorization Required</h2>" in it. :confused:

    Edit: I just changed my default browser back to IE. And then opened
    https://<my tivo ip>/nowplaying/index.html

    When prompted by IE, I typed in tivo/MAK in the IE password box (without checking the remember box) and now downloads appear to be working in the TivoPlayList app. Trying to see now what it takes to break it again. ;)

    Edit #2: Well I can currently download from one Tivo, but my second only downloads the file with the "Authorization Required" content. I am sure if I view its now playing list via a browser (specifically IE, not Firefox) and input tivo/MAK it too will start working, but I'm not quite sure why this is necessary just yet... Or more specifically why it is not working with Firefox as my default browser perhaps. :confused:
     
  11. Mar 28, 2006 #31 of 140
    Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Working well for me. Good job! Tivo should buy this from you.
     
  12. Mar 28, 2006 #32 of 140
    marksman

    marksman ID-10-T

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    Won't this application confuse people? Won't people be unable to process the amount of free space their tivos have? I think this is a dangerous application.
     
  13. Mar 28, 2006 #33 of 140
    ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Active Member

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    Plainview...
    I hope your being sarcastic. This is the easiest thing to use. The only part that is confusing is figuring out what size hard drive you have and not the amount of hours it can record.
     
  14. Mar 28, 2006 #34 of 140
    morac

    morac Cat God

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    Thanks, that fixed the width issue.

    I've noticed a few other minor issues:

    1. Some shows are showing the wrong quality setting. There are "high" quality shows that are showing up as "medium" quality and "best" quality shows that are showing up as "high" quality. All my cable channels are digital which means they have a cleaner signal which probably explains why they higher quality recordings are smaller than expected. Here's some examples:
    a) Anything over .70 is showing as medium quality, but I have a number of "high" quality shows in the .70's. The highest "high" quality recording I have is showing as .80 (med). I true "medium" quality show shows up as .084. So in my case "medium" is > 0.80.
    b) Anything over .45 (and less than .70) shows up as "high", but I have a few "best" shows with values up to and including 0.59. So in my case "best" goes up to 0.59 and then "high" starts at 0.60 and goes to .080.

    Maybe these ranges can be manually set or changed?

    2. I received a "http authorization error" when I clicked save. Clicking save again worked. In previous study I've found that the TiVo can't handle more than 4 connections at once or it returns an error. This might have been what happened.

    3. The MAK value is stored in human readable format in the TiVoPlayList.ini file in the program directory. It would be better if it at least encoded/encrypted it so it wasn't readable (or at least not so obvious). Especially since the program itself displays stars in the MAK field.

    4. Some of the times are a second off. I know this is an issue with the actual data returned from the TiVo, but your program should probably round to the nearest whole minute it the time is off by a second.

    Other than that great work. Thanks.
     
  15. Mar 29, 2006 #35 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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    Thanks morac.

    1) This has been an issue I have visited before with different people. I have also changed these ranges slightly with previous versions of the program. Unfortunately, the recording quality is not returned with the first level of info from the TiVo, it could be accessed by drilling down into each show, but that would be a slow process. With that said, I believe that some variation in compression rate exists between different versions of TiVo machines. I also think that the number one problem in mis-reporting a quality using these ranges is that the TiVo grabs chunks of disk space in advance of recording the info and doesn't give it back if the recording is stopped or ends. The shorter the show, the greater a chance of error. And shows that get clipped or don't record in exactly 30 minute slices are the worst.

    My machine is rock solid at .40 for best, .64 for high and .82 for medium quality. For all shows that are 30, 60, 90, 120, 250 minutes, etc. For shows that are say 25 minutes, the ratio goes up (incorrectly) because of space that was allocated but not recorded.

    2) Network connection/communications glitches can and do occur.

    3) I hide the MAK on the program screen so people can safely show screen captures to each other. I find it easy to edit and copy/paste into the .ini in human readable form. If you don't like it stored there, just leave that field blank in the program and you will get a web browser login window that shows asterisks and will save your password (MAK) across sessions.

    4) I show the actual recording duration reported by the TiVo down to the second. I round the program start times up by 6 seconds for recordings that start just before the scheduled time (i.e. if 11:29:57 is reported as the recording start time, I show 11:30)

    Thanks again, all comments and suggestions will be considered. Even if I don't plan on doing something right now, doesn't mean I won't at some point in the future.
     
  16. Mar 29, 2006 #36 of 140
    Joeg180

    Joeg180 Burning Daylight

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    Just downloaded this app, great work!
     
  17. Mar 30, 2006 #37 of 140
    gothamknight

    gothamknight New Member

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    Thanks for the great work. One odd thing though, on my system the Free Disk Space reads as 0.0 GB even though only 55.6GB out of a 160GB drive has been used.
    :confused:
     
  18. Mar 31, 2006 #38 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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    Did you manually enter your Total Disk Space (160GB) next to the IP Address and MAK and click SAVE?
     
  19. Mar 31, 2006 #39 of 140
    gothamknight

    gothamknight New Member

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    Doh! I knew I forgot something. Thanks!
     
  20. Mar 31, 2006 #40 of 140
    dcahoe

    dcahoe TiVoPlayList Author

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    New version v0.52 is now available for download.

    New features include ability to drill down into folders in Folder View, TiVo Suggestions grouped into one folder in Folder View, and TiVo Suggestions added to Pie Chart when viewing disk usage by status.

    As before, you can download from http://tivoplaylist.dyndns.org
     

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