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TivoHD & Series3 MRV/TTG/TTCB: FAQ + Discussion

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Oct 28, 2007 #41 of 366
    DinoBambino

    DinoBambino New Member

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    Is anyone else experiencing a complete hogging of pc resources when doing a divx TTCB transfer to Tivo (Tivo HD)?

    My PC becomes basically unusable when transferring the files. The PC specs are a AMD 3400 Sempron with 1.5 GB RAM running XP Pro. The network conneciton between the PC and Tivo is wired.

    I have uninstalled Tivo Desktop and reinstalled, which seems to have helped slightly. But the pc is still unusable.

    I'm starting to think purchasing the Plus version wasn't such a great idea.

    Any suggestions? Would doing a batch conversion of divx files to mpeg and then TTCB be a better solution?

    Sorry for the semi rant, but I have spent too much time troubleshooting this today/tonight/next morning.

    Thanks.

    ***Edit: Arrgh! The computer went to screen saver mode, which must have stopped the file transfer. Now the partial file that was transferred is gone from the Now Playing List on the Tivo. Also, when I first selected the file to transfer to the Tivo my computer disappered from the NPL list on Tivo.

    I really wanted to get rid of the Xbox running XBMC. I don't really play many games - I was using it as a media center.
     
  2. Oct 28, 2007 #42 of 366
    rictus

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    I'm seeing two problems with TTG from my Series3:

    -- Many of the programs I've downloaded appear to have incorrect lengths in Windows Media Player--for example, WMP says they're 15 minutes long when they're actually 60 minutes long. WMP will actually play past the 15 minute mark, but I can't fast-forward or use the time bar past this point. Some other people on the TTG forum mentioned seeing this, but I was wondering if anyone over here knew of a solution.

    -- On one particular program (a Planet Earth HD episode), both TiVo Desktop and the built-in HTTPS server refuse to transfer more than 200MB of the file, even though the entire 7GB episode is available and watchable on the TiVo. Most of the other Planet Earth episodes transferred fine (though I think a couple others got truncated slightly, to around 6GB).
     
  3. Oct 28, 2007 #43 of 366
    SeanC

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    Yep that's exactly what I see. I'm running TivoDesktop on a P4 2200 with 1.5G of RAM laptop.

    When I start a transfer that needs to be encoded TD takes 99% of resources, but I wouldn't call the laptop unusable. Slow, yes, very slow in fact. It could take a couple of minutes to open a new window, but once open the programs work fine.
     
  4. Oct 28, 2007 #44 of 366
    naclone

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    anybody else getting this error?

    "This program was not transfered onto this DVR because the file was larger than expected or because the file was corrupted"
     
  5. Oct 28, 2007 #45 of 366
    tootal2

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    I like video redo. Seems to do a good job taking ads out. But sometimes i get a error.
    "file dimensions have changed" when its doing a scan for ads. and the program shuts down.
     
  6. Oct 28, 2007 #46 of 366
    bkdtv

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    Is one of those files a MPG?

    Tivo Desktop does not touch MPGs.

    If it is another file type, I don't know. There may be something in the file type that the Tivo looks for to determine whether to add bars or not.
     
  7. Oct 28, 2007 #47 of 366
    bkdtv

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    In TiVo Desktop under Server -> Server properties, select the Performance tab and set the Activity Level to low. That will reduce the amount of system resources devoted to the program, but it will also slow your video transfers to the TiVo.

    TiVo Desktop Plus encodes non-MPEG2 files to MPG format on the fly for transfer to the TiVo. This is fairly processor and resource intensive for older computers. Encoding quality is always a tradeoff with quality vs. speed. As far as encoders go, Tivo Desktop is configured to produce relatively low quality output so it can work well on most computers. I've used other encoders that produce significantly better output equality, but required 100% of every CPU on a quad-core system.

    On modern computer systems -- like a dual core Athlon64 or Intel Core2 Duo -- you won't even notice the resources taken by Tivo Desktop. This graph compares different CPUs over the past several years. Anandtech has a good roundup of current mid-range processors if you want to look at your options for a new computer.
     
  8. Oct 28, 2007 #48 of 366
    mr2828

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    Something you can do to help is open the Windows Task Manager (taskmgr.exe). Sort the running programs by CPU usage, find the tivo conversion process, right click on it and set the process priority to BELOW NORMAL. Your computer will then be a lot more responsive, but on the other hand the conversion will take a bit longer.
     
  9. Oct 28, 2007 #49 of 366
    bkdtv

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    This is a codec / decoder issue on your computer. I had that problem until I switched to the Cyberlink decoder.

    Right-click on Windows Media Player window and select properties while the file is playing. That will tell you the video decoder you are using.

    I've found some recordings transfer in 9.2 that would not transfer in 9.1. If there is a lot of pixelization in the recording (i.e. due to a poor signal), it looks like that can cause trouble for some transfers. It's not really clear at this point what else causes problems with some transfers and not others.
     
  10. Oct 28, 2007 #50 of 366
    rictus

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    Hmmm. I just installed the Cyberlink decoder (and disabled the other decoders, and verified that WMP is using the Cyberlink decoder) and am still seeing the same issue. Odd.

    nj
     
  11. Oct 28, 2007 #51 of 366
    bkdtv

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    I suppose there could be an error in the file that is causing that problem. Or it could be a difference in versions.

    My Cyberink decoder is v8.1.0.7104.
     
  12. Oct 28, 2007 #52 of 366
    tase2

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    First-Thank you very much bkdtv for all your hard work in putting together this FAQ.

    I have 1 question-probably a dumb one, but here it is:

    Is there any way to simply stream the video from the PC to Tivo with transferring the recording?
     
  13. Oct 28, 2007 #53 of 366
    SeanC

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    Under Tools select Quick Stream Fix, when the box pops open put a checkmark in Enable Filters.

    VRD will output an MPG file that strips out the commercial that's causing the problem, then open the new MPG file and run ad detector.
     
  14. Oct 28, 2007 #54 of 366
    moyekj

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    Thanks for the tip. I ran my ReplayTV sample mpegs through Womble Mpeg Video Wizard and now via TTCB all trick functions work properly on my S3s. So as HDTiVo suggests if you are having problems with trick functions working perhaps running them through VideoRedo or Womble may fix them up.
     
  15. Oct 28, 2007 #55 of 366
    bkdtv

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    I believe this is caused by the your cable company's commercial insertion equipment. They are inserting commercials using a different resolution.

    I believe the folks over at VideoRedo said they were looking at this issue.

    For now, I would try what SeanC suggested above.
     
  16. Oct 28, 2007 #56 of 366
    rictus

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    Where did you get that version? I got the "PowerDVD SE" codec pack from the Cyberlink website, which appears to be a much older version.

    Thanks,

    nj
     
  17. Oct 28, 2007 #57 of 366
    GBL

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    I can view SD content just fine, but watching HD content, I get no sound and severely distorted and slowed down images.

    I am using TiVo Desktop 2.5.1 plus, WMP 10.0 on laptop with XP home, SP2, intel centrino Duo CPU 1.66GHz, 1GB memory. Codec is Intervideo, IVIVIDEO.ax Version 7.0.27.191.

    I also installed WMP 11, no change.

    Any suggestions?
     
  18. Oct 28, 2007 #58 of 366
    greggt007

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    "Are high-definition recordings downconverted during transfer?

    No. Recordings transferred with TTG are 100% identical to the original."

    is this correct? all of my transfers so far are about 94% of the size of the original, eg. a 7.5gb hd show on the tivo according to desktop, after it transfers to my pc, is about 7gb, a 13.5 gb show is 12gb on the pc. i havent transferred a whole show back and my pc cant play hd, but i've watched it partially on the tivo and it looks fine as it transfers
     
  19. Oct 28, 2007 #59 of 366
    moyekj

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    Part of the reason for that is that Tivo Info displays the file size in decimal GB (10^9) vs. binary GB (2^30) which your PC is showing.
     
  20. Oct 28, 2007 #60 of 366
    greggt007

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    not Tivo Info, but from desktop...when you pick recordings to transfer, they list as say 980MB or 7,480MB. and after you transfer they list as say 920MB, 6920MB, etc
    i believe i read somewhere that THD has to convert the files when it transfer and the S3 doesnt..?
     

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