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TivoHD & Series3 MRV/TTG/TTCB: FAQ + Discussion

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Dec 6, 2007 #241 of 366
    DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

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    Have any of you gotten Tivo Decode Manager to work right with a S3 on a Mac? I installed and it worked fine for the first time I ran it, then everytime after that it would start to download and then stop, then start again.

    Don't know what to get that makes an easy solution.

    Also, I tried editing the Tivo Desktop .dll file to change my resolution for my touch, but everytime I edit it, save it, then put it back in the dir, it reverts back to the old version. Any ideas?
     
  2. Dec 6, 2007 #242 of 366
    volksman

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    I have a TIVO Series 3 unit on the way. I am somewhat confused on the monthly cost of activation. The unit is coming from Amazon. What is the best price on activating this unit?
     
  3. Dec 8, 2007 #243 of 366
    foamy909

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    I had a similar problem with my second download from my Series 3, but my third seemed to complete ok. I just installed everything yesterday and have not done too much with it yet.

    I am having a different problem. I searched this thread and a few others, but if I missed it, I apologize. I purchased the MPEG-2 component from Apple and installed MPEG Streamclip in an attempt to cut out commercials. I am having issues opening the downloaded MPEG files in either Quicktime or Streamclip. One of the files (SD, from analog) plays the audio only in both programs. The video remains frozen on the initial frame. The second file (SD, digital recording) will not play at all in Quicktime, but the audio will play in Streamclip. The third file (HD) seems to play without issue.

    I previously purchased Toast 8 and all three files play in the Toast Video Player without issue. It seems to be a MPEG-2 Component issue, but I have reinstalled it to no effect. I saw on some of the Apple Forums that there have been Quicktime 7.3 issues, but did not see anything similar to my problem there, either.

    I am attempting another SD download as I write this and just noticed something in Tivo Decode Manager. There is a check next to the HD program I downloaded, but no checks next to the two SD programs. Maybe the SD downloads did not complete successfully and are missing part of the file.

    I am running 10.4.11 with Quicktime Pro 7.3 on a 1.33GHz upgraded G4. The connection to the Tivo is wired ethernet and I have reset permissions.
     
  4. netguru7

    netguru7 Mac-Dude

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    Hi,

    I used this article to download and try both Tivo Decode Manager and Tivo Decoder on my imac G4 PPC running OS X 10.4.11. I have a TivoHD. All i got was an MPEG file with no sound. The file i was using was an HD recording. So i am guessing that it may only work with shows you recorded in analog. Does anyone know how to convert HD recordings from.tivo to MPEG 2? I really need to know how to do this. I was pretty bummed when it did not work.

    Thx

    Rick
     
  5. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Are you using Quicktime? Quicktime does not include the codecs to decode and output Dolby Digital sound.

    You might try the latest version of VLC. I know the previous version had some playback issues with high-definition files, but I haven't seen any reports on the newest one.

    The playback application bundled with Roxio Toast 8 Titanium and Roxio Popcorn is still the best program for viewing high-definition MPEG-2 recordings, based on what other members have said.

    That's exactly what Tivo Decode Manager for OSX does. It downloads and decodes the Tivo file into MPEG-2 format. If the recordings weren't in MPEG-2 format, they wouldn't be playable at all on your Mac without the Roxio viewer.
     
  6. johnnylundy

    johnnylundy New Member

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    Hi Rick,

    I have learned quite a bit about this.

    TiVoDecode (part of TiVoDecode Manager) does in fact decode the .tivo file into Muxed MPEG-2.

    The problem is, QuickTime Player will not play that file properly, EVEN IF you buy the $30 "MPEG-2 Codec" from Apple (I tried).

    So there are two solutions:

    1) Use VLC. It will play the files.

    2) Use iSquint to convert the MPEG-2 Muxed files to MPEG-4 (click "For TV" on the iSquint setup screen).

    Also, for getting the height and width correct, read off what they are in Finder for the .mpeg file and enter them in iSquint's "Advanced" panel, even though it warns you not to mess with those. Also enter "128" for the Audio Bitrate, and "48000" and "Stereo" in the two Audio popup lists below the Bit Rate field.

    VLC: found at http://www.videolan.org/

    iSquint: found at http://www.isquint.org

    I downloaded and converted more than 50 shows this way so I know it works.
     
  7. johnnylundy

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    The QuickTime MPEG component will not play the Muxed MPEG-2 files generated by TiVoDecode. You need to either play them in VLC or run them through iSquint to convert to MPEG-4.

    I know, I know, I wasted my $30 also...
     
  8. netguru7

    netguru7 Mac-Dude

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    Hi,

    thanks for all your useful suggestions. I did use VLC to play the files and nada. No audio. Here is the interesting thing. I downloaded an HD show and i got video but no sound then i tried an analog show and QT did not play video or audio. But then i tried opening the file in VLC and got video but still no audio. I opened both files in QT player with QT MPEG2 component installed and VLC and there was no sound in either file (no video in QT on the analog file).

    What i am trying to do is use my laptop and front row to view my shows on the hotel room tv (and on the plane) when i travel. I was hoping that i could just used Tivo Decoder or Decode Manager and get an MPEG 2 file with sound and dump these files into my movies folder where front row would see them and voila instant remote controllable video library while i travel. i did not want to have to convert to MPEG 4 as it takes way too long on my computer even with Turbo H.264 (12-18 hours at Ipod standard setting). I have Popcorn 3 and it takes way too long and i don't know if it can give me an MPEG2 file with sound. All i see is MPEG 4 and H.264. I also have a ReplayTV and all i have to do with that is use mReplay to transfer MPEG2 files to my computer and then transfer those to my Movies folder on my laptop and i am good to go, Front Row sees those files as Movies so i can control everything using my remote.

    Do you folks think that perhaps these 2 software packages have not been updated for Series 3? I am lost and overwhelmed.

    Thx

    Rick



     
  9. johnnylundy

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    All I can tell you is that the MPEG-2 Muxed absolutely will not play in QT Player, even with the $30 codec.

    Converting them to MPEG-4 with iSquint is very fast for me. Of course this is on a quad Xeon Mac Pro.

    I just watched 3 episodes of House MD that I did this way and they were all perfect HD with perfect sound.

    It's puzzling why VLC doesn't work. It's very picky sometimes.
     
  10. netguru7

    netguru7 Mac-Dude

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    I opened the file in QT and did a save as MPEG4 and looked at the audio tab details. It said there was no soundtrack. I found a TIVO Decoder script that uses MAC OS X's Automator using tivodecoder 0.1.4. it works real well but the same issue no sound.

    man this is frustrating. Why Tivo can't integrate with front row (they use elgato's video player in popcorn 3 and eyetv integrates with front row) and why AppleTV and iPods can't play MPEG2 is beyond me. I don't like windows much and have been a Mac Fanboy since the 80's but i have to say they do make it so much easier on the PC with WMC. Just a simple question of recording in WMC and then syncing. Then you have full remote control over your "portable DVR on oyur laptop" and simple syncing options like your Zune or laptop. The way it should be-simple.



     
  11. Larry Chanin

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    Hi bkdtv,

    First, I'd like to acknowledge how much I greatly appreciate your valueable contributions to this and other forums.

    I've purchased one of those $10 splitters from Radio Shack. Is this going to be adequate for this application?

    We've just recently been connected to Verizon FiOS and after the usual day or so to get the CableCards working things seem to be okay, except for a few channels that suffer from pixelation. As I understand your comments in another thread, this is due to having too strong of a signal for the TiVos. Is it likely that using a splitter could "kill two birds with one stone" for one of my TiVo HDs by attenuating the signal, or will I still have to add more attenuation?

    Thanks again.

    Larry
     
  12. bkdtv

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    I've since learned that the coax passthrough on one of my NIM100s was defective, which is why the splitter was necessary. Coax passthrough works just fine on my other NIM100s, so no splitter is needed.

    I just updated the FAQ to reflect that information.

    The splitter is unlikely to provide sufficient attenuation. Most seem to require around 10-16dB of attenuation, and some require as much as 20dB.

    I would return the splitter to Radio Shack and order the $12.99 attenuator pack from Smarthome.com. More information in this thread.
     
  13. netguru7

    netguru7 Mac-Dude

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    Hi,

    i decide to uninstall VLC and reinstalled it and i know have video with audio. and at least i can remote control it. I did find this really awesome Automator script that can be turned into an app that uses tivo decoder o.1.4 and it works great and fast. Better than Tivo decoder app. just fyi
     
  14. Mach1_8

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    I have just started with the whole TTG/TTCB thing. I've had great success using TTG plus to put programs onto my iPod and archiving to DVD. Recently I've been trying to send some video podcasts and the like back to my TiVo with no luck. I, too, don't think it's a network problem...my Vista machine shows up in the NP list, but when I select it, it says nothing is available. On the other end, the TiVo Desktop shows all of the correct files ready to go. Any words on the patch? Anyone else have any ideas?
     
  15. Larry Chanin

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    Hi,

    Thanks!

    I just received my NIM100 a few minutes ago and connected it via the coax passthrough to my Family Room TiVoHD. Things appear to be working. :up:

    The ethernet connection was recognized and I was able to view a list of the recorded content on my Home Theater TiVoHD. I haven't tried any transfers yet.

    I was also able to view photos on my Family Room HDTV that were archived on two PCs connected to the home network. My TiVo Desktop likewise lists the content on both TivoHDs. Very cool. :)

    Larry
     
  16. rrman

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    I have one TiVo Series 3 and two Tivo HDs. Recently, I gave them new names in TiVo's online MMA. I made all 3 reconnect to TiVo so as to download the latest names. I then restarted each TiVo for good measure. Each TiVo now knows its new name. However, each TiVo still displays the old names of the other two TiVos in the "Now Playing" list. It's been about 2 or 3 days already, and each TiVo still doesn't show the new names of the other two TiVos. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make each TiVo display the new names of the other two TiVos? I tried seaching if anyone has a solution, and I haven't found one yet.
     
  17. jaj2276

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    I've been reading a few posts in this thread that have mentioned this error but no one has been able to determine why this occurs.

    I started getting this error and now I know why. I'm dealing exclusively in xVids, so this might not apply to other filetypes. Anyways, I had transferred a 1hr30min video without trouble.

    Then I started snooping around here and saw the hack to the tivotrans.dll regarding the higher resolution/bitrates. I made the change and everything is/was working. I didn't really see much difference visually and didn't think much of it.

    Then I tried to upload 5 more files and they all failed, all with the same generic reason. I then tried to upload the 1 file that had worked before and it failed too. So of course I revert to the "reboot everything" mentality. That made no diff.

    Then it dawned on me that hey, what I did change between successful and unsuccessful xfer was the tivotrans.dll! So I deleted the file and reinstalled TivoDesktopPlus and everything transferred!

    So, today I'm going to run a few tests to see at what resolution and bitrate (I had mine set at 720 and 7000) the xfers start to fail.
     
  18. euckersw

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    jaj2276,

    I've received the same errors after playing around with the res and bitrate in the tivotrans.dll file. At first I thought it might be my computer (processing power?), but I just recently (within the past week) upgraded to a new computer (Athlon X2), and still receive the same errors/problems. When I revert to the old settings, I have no problems transferring.

    Oddly enough, changing the resolution to 720 has no ill effects on my transfers - only altering the vbitrateK and vmaxbitrateK settings seem to cause the failures.

    Please let me know what the results are of your tests.
     
  19. Jan 1, 2008 #259 of 366
    Carlton Bale

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    I too am having problems transferring recordings. I've tried TiVo Desktop and my web browser and most of the shows will not fully transfer. For example, I get 65MB into a 30GB transfer and it stops, and I tried multiple computers. In fact, the only show that fully transferred was a show that was originally MRV'd from my other TiVo HD. (I have two TiVo HDs, btw.) Any ideas on how to fix this?
     
  20. Jan 3, 2008 #260 of 366
    cheesehawk

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    I have a Tivo HD and have recently noticed that shows from 720p channels (ABC and FOX) are having issues when converting to portable files.

    After TiVo Desktop converts the shows, they play at sped up pace with glitches. An hour show is shrunk to around 42 minutes.

    I do not have any issues when playing the .tivo files in Windows Media Player. Also, when I first started transferring shows from these channels, the files converted without any problems.

    Has anyone else experienced this?
     

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